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[198.145.64.163]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a22sm723870pfv.113.2021.07.29.23.00.49 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 29 Jul 2021 23:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 23:00:48 -0700 From: Kees Cook To: Dan Carpenter Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman , dsterba@suse.cz, Bart Van Assche , linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org, "Gustavo A. R. Silva" , Keith Packard , Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-staging@lists.linux.dev, linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, clang-built-linux@googlegroups.com, nborisov@suse.com Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/64] media: omap3isp: Extract struct group for memcpy() region Message-ID: <202107291952.C08EAE039B@keescook> References: <20210727205855.411487-1-keescook@chromium.org> <20210727205855.411487-2-keescook@chromium.org> <20210728085921.GV5047@twin.jikos.cz> <20210728091434.GQ1931@kadam> <20210728213730.GR5047@suse.cz> <20210729082039.GX25548@kadam> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-staging@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210729082039.GX25548@kadam> On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 11:20:39AM +0300, Dan Carpenter wrote: > On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 07:56:27AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 11:37:30PM +0200, David Sterba wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 02:37:20PM -0700, Bart Van Assche wrote: > > > > On 7/28/21 2:14 AM, Dan Carpenter wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 10:59:22AM +0200, David Sterba wrote: > > > > >>> drivers/media/platform/omap3isp/ispstat.c | 5 +-- > > > > >>> include/uapi/linux/omap3isp.h | 44 +++++++++++++++++------ > > > > >>> 2 files changed, 36 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-) > > > > >>> > > > > >>> diff --git a/drivers/media/platform/omap3isp/ispstat.c b/drivers/media/platform/omap3isp/ispstat.c > > > > >>> index 5b9b57f4d9bf..ea8222fed38e 100644 > > > > >>> --- a/drivers/media/platform/omap3isp/ispstat.c > > > > >>> +++ b/drivers/media/platform/omap3isp/ispstat.c > > > > >>> @@ -512,7 +512,7 @@ int omap3isp_stat_request_statistics(struct ispstat *stat, > > > > >>> int omap3isp_stat_request_statistics_time32(struct ispstat *stat, > > > > >>> struct omap3isp_stat_data_time32 *data) > > > > >>> { > > > > >>> - struct omap3isp_stat_data data64; > > > > >>> + struct omap3isp_stat_data data64 = { }; > > > > >> > > > > >> Should this be { 0 } ? > > > > >> > > > > >> We've seen patches trying to switch from { 0 } to { } but the answer > > > > >> was that { 0 } is supposed to be used, > > > > >> http://www.ex-parrot.com/~chris/random/initialise.html > > > > >> > > > > >> (from https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/fbddb15a-6e46-3f21-23ba-b18f66e3448a@suse.com/ ) > > > > > > > > > > In the kernel we don't care about portability so much. Use the = { } > > > > > GCC extension. If the first member of the struct is a pointer then > > > > > Sparse will complain about = { 0 }. > > > > > > > > +1 for { }. > > > > > > Oh, I thought the tendency is is to use { 0 } because that can also > > > intialize the compound members, by a "scalar 0" as it appears in the > > > code. > > > > > > > Holes in the structure might not be initialized to anything if you do > > either one of these as well. > > > > Or did we finally prove that is not the case? I can not remember > > anymore... > > Yep. The C11 spec says that struct holes are initialized. > > https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20200731140452.GE24045@ziepe.ca/ This is, unfortunately, misleading. The frustrating key word is "partial" in "updated in C11 to require zero'ing padding when doing partial initialization of aggregates". If one initializes _all_ the struct members ... the padding doesn't get initialized. :( (And until recently, _trailing_ padding wasn't getting initialized even when other paddings were.) I've tried to collect all the different ways the compiler might initialize a variable in this test: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/kees/linux.git/tree/lib/test_stackinit.c?h=for-next/kspp FWIW, there's no difference between -std=gnu99 and -std=c11, and the test shows that padding is _not_ universally initialized (unless your compiler supports -ftrivial-auto-var-init=zero, which Clang does, and GCC will shortly[1]). Running this with GCC 10.3.0, I see this... As expected, having no initializer leaves padding (as well as members) uninitialized: stackinit: small_hole_none FAIL (uninit bytes: 24) stackinit: big_hole_none FAIL (uninit bytes: 128) stackinit: trailing_hole_none FAIL (uninit bytes: 32) Here, "zero" means "= { };" and they get padding initialized: stackinit: small_hole_zero ok stackinit: big_hole_zero ok stackinit: trailing_hole_zero ok Here, "static_partial" means "= { .one_member = 0 };", and "dynamic_partial" means "= { .one_member = some_variable };". These are similarly initialized: stackinit: small_hole_static_partial ok stackinit: big_hole_static_partial ok stackinit: trailing_hole_static_partial ok stackinit: small_hole_dynamic_partial ok stackinit: big_hole_dynamic_partial ok stackinit: trailing_hole_dynamic_partial ok But when _all_ members are initialized, the padding is _not_: stackinit: small_hole_static_all FAIL (uninit bytes: 3) stackinit: big_hole_static_all FAIL (uninit bytes: 124) stackinit: trailing_hole_static_all FAIL (uninit bytes: 7) stackinit: small_hole_dynamic_all FAIL (uninit bytes: 3) stackinit: big_hole_dynamic_all FAIL (uninit bytes: 124) stackinit: trailing_hole_dynamic_all FAIL (uninit bytes: 7) As expected, assigning to members outside of initialization leaves padding uninitialized: stackinit: small_hole_runtime_partial FAIL (uninit bytes: 23) stackinit: big_hole_runtime_partial FAIL (uninit bytes: 127) stackinit: trailing_hole_runtime_partial FAIL (uninit bytes: 24) stackinit: small_hole_runtime_all FAIL (uninit bytes: 3) stackinit: big_hole_runtime_all FAIL (uninit bytes: 124) stackinit: trailing_hole_runtime_all FAIL (uninit bytes: 7) > What doesn't initialize struct holes is assignments: > > struct foo foo = *bar; Right. Object to object assignments do not clear padding: stackinit: small_hole_assigned_copy XFAIL (uninit bytes: 3) stackinit: big_hole_assigned_copy XFAIL (uninit bytes: 124) stackinit: trailing_hole_assigned_copy XFAIL (uninit bytes: 7) And whole-object assignments of cast initializers follow the pattern of basic initializers, which makes sense given the behavior of initializers and direct assignment tests above. e.g.: obj = (type){ .member = ... }; stackinit: small_hole_assigned_static_partial ok stackinit: small_hole_assigned_dynamic_partial ok stackinit: big_hole_assigned_dynamic_partial ok stackinit: big_hole_assigned_static_partial ok stackinit: trailing_hole_assigned_dynamic_partial ok stackinit: trailing_hole_assigned_static_partial ok stackinit: small_hole_assigned_static_all FAIL (uninit bytes: 3) stackinit: small_hole_assigned_dynamic_all FAIL (uninit bytes: 3) stackinit: big_hole_assigned_static_all FAIL (uninit bytes: 124) stackinit: big_hole_assigned_dynamic_all FAIL (uninit bytes: 124) stackinit: trailing_hole_assigned_dynamic_all FAIL (uninit bytes: 7) stackinit: trailing_hole_assigned_static_all FAIL (uninit bytes: 7) So, yeah, it's not very stable. -Kees [1] https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2021-July/576341.html -- Kees Cook