From: Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: "Nick Kossifidis" <mick@ics.forth.gr>,
"Drew Fustini" <drew@beagleboard.org>,
"Anup Patel" <anup.patel@wdc.com>,
"Palmer Dabbelt" <palmerdabbelt@google.com>,
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linux-sunxi@lists.linux.dev, "Guo Ren" <guoren@linux.alibaba.com>,
"Paul Walmsley" <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
"Benjamin Koch" <snowball@c3pb.de>,
"Matteo Croce" <mcroce@linux.microsoft.com>,
"Wei Fu" <tekkamanninja@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/3] riscv: Add DMA_COHERENT support
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2021 14:41:14 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJF2gTRZuER5YbTD=0xWLU0Np6eD8L_z3rZH0i_WXgENUD3nbQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210607062701.GB24060@lst.de>
On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 2:27 PM Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 07, 2021 at 11:19:03AM +0800, Guo Ren wrote:
> > >From Linux non-coherency view, we need:
> > - Non-cache + Strong Order PTE attributes to deal with drivers' DMA descriptors
> > - Non-cache + weak order to deal with framebuffer drivers
> > - CMO dma_sync to sync cache with DMA devices
>
> This is not strictly true. At the very minimum you only need cache
> invalidation and writeback instructions. For example early parisc
> CPUs and some m68knommu SOCs have no support for uncached areas at all,
> and Linux works. But to be fair this is very painful and supports only
> very limited periphals. So for modern full Linux support some uncahed
> memory is advisable. But that doesn't have to be using PTE attributes.
> It could also be physical memory regions that are either totally fixed
Double/Triple the size of physical memory regions can't be accepted by
SOC vendors, because it wastes HW resources.
Some cost-down soc interconnects only have 32bit~34bit width of
physical address, are you sure you could force them to expand it? (I
can't)
> or somewhat dynamic.
How can HW implement with dynamic modifying PMA? What's the granularity?
--
Best Regards
Guo Ren
ML: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-csky/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-06-07 6:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-05-19 5:04 [PATCH RFC 0/3] riscv: Add DMA_COHERENT support guoren
2021-05-19 5:04 ` [PATCH RFC 1/3] riscv: pgtable.h: Fixup _PAGE_CHG_MASK usage guoren
2021-05-19 5:04 ` [PATCH RFC 2/3] riscv: Add DMA_COHERENT for custom PTE attributes guoren
2021-05-19 5:04 ` [PATCH RFC 3/3] riscv: Add SYNC_DMA_FOR_CPU/DEVICE for DMA_COHERENT guoren
2021-05-19 6:32 ` Guo Ren
2021-05-19 5:20 ` [PATCH RFC 0/3] riscv: Add DMA_COHERENT support Christoph Hellwig
2021-05-19 5:48 ` Guo Ren
2021-05-19 5:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-05-19 6:09 ` Guo Ren
2021-05-19 6:44 ` Drew Fustini
2021-05-19 6:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-05-20 1:45 ` Guo Ren
2021-05-20 5:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-06 18:14 ` Nick Kossifidis
2021-06-07 0:04 ` Guo Ren
2021-06-07 2:16 ` Nick Kossifidis
2021-06-07 3:19 ` Guo Ren
2021-06-07 6:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-07 6:41 ` Guo Ren [this message]
2021-06-07 6:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-07 7:46 ` Guo Ren
2021-06-08 15:00 ` David Laight
2021-06-08 15:32 ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2021-06-08 16:11 ` David Laight
2021-06-07 8:35 ` Nick Kossifidis
2021-06-09 3:28 ` Guo Ren
2021-06-09 6:05 ` Jisheng Zhang
2021-06-09 9:45 ` Nick Kossifidis
2021-06-09 12:43 ` Guo Ren
2021-05-19 6:05 ` Guo Ren
2021-05-19 6:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-05-19 6:11 ` Guo Ren
2021-05-19 6:54 ` Drew Fustini
2021-05-19 6:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-05-19 7:14 ` Anup Patel
2021-05-19 8:25 ` Damien Le Moal
2021-05-20 1:47 ` Guo Ren
2021-05-20 1:59 ` Guo Ren
2021-05-22 0:36 ` Guo Ren
2021-05-30 0:30 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-06-03 4:13 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-06-03 6:00 ` Anup Patel
2021-06-03 15:39 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-06-04 9:02 ` David Laight
2021-06-04 9:53 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-04 14:47 ` Guo Ren
2021-06-04 16:12 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-06-04 21:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-04 22:10 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-06-08 12:26 ` Guo Ren
2021-06-06 17:11 ` Guo Ren
2021-06-07 3:38 ` Anup Patel
2021-06-07 4:22 ` Guo Ren
2021-06-07 4:47 ` Anup Patel
2021-06-07 5:08 ` Guo Ren
2021-06-07 5:13 ` Guo Ren
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