linux-toolchains.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tony.luck@intel.com,
	reinette.chatre@intel.com, fenghua.yu@intel.com,
	peternewman@google.com, james.morse@arm.com, babu.moger@amd.com,
	ananth.narayan@amd.com, vschneid@redhat.com,
	Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	clang-built-linux <llvm@lists.linux.dev>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/resctrl: avoid compiler optimization in __resctrl_sched_in
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 12:43:16 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230307184315.GS25951@gate.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230307113545.GB2017917@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Hi!

On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 12:35:45PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> So per that summary, I'm going to nit-pick and state we very much want
> CSE. CSE good. What we don't want it violating store-load ordering.

So you need to describe exactly what you *do* want.  There is no way to
forbid most otherwise valid things.  But you can express pretty much all
dependencies.

> Oh, geez, what a twisty tale that... So Linus knew back in '09 that "p"
> was icky, but it sorta was the only thing and it 'worked' -- until now
> :/

The "p" constraint is just like any other address_constraint, in most
aspects.  Since this is very specific to "p", that limits what is going
on to really just one thing.

For "p", after reload, strict_memory_address_addr_space_p is used.  That
is, targetm.addr_space.legitimate_address_p with strict set to true.  On
x86 that limits what registers can be used?  So I guess that made things
accidentally work before?

> So ideally we'd get something that respects the whole store-load
> ordering but still allows agressive CSE. And works for both toolchains.
> Small ask, I know :-)

Well, what is the ordering you need respected, *exactly*?


Segher

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-03-07 20:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20230303231133.1486085-1-eranian@google.com>
     [not found] ` <20230306120106.GE1267364@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
     [not found]   ` <CAKwvOdnRvd5KK01awAyeyt5S36TPPW4_8Z6YL1r4gB-pBrHTbg@mail.gmail.com>
2023-03-07 11:35     ` [PATCH] x86/resctrl: avoid compiler optimization in __resctrl_sched_in Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-07 17:48       ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-07 18:43       ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2023-03-07 20:43         ` Jakub Jelinek
2023-03-07 20:54           ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-07 21:06             ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-07 21:35               ` Luck, Tony
2023-03-07 21:58                 ` Nick Desaulniers
2023-03-08  6:13               ` Stephane Eranian
2023-03-08 23:25                 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-08 16:02               ` Moger, Babu
2023-03-07 21:11             ` Luck, Tony
2023-03-07 21:14               ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-07 21:23                 ` Luck, Tony
2023-03-08  0:36                   ` Luck, Tony
2023-03-07 21:16               ` Nick Desaulniers
2023-03-07 21:19                 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-07 21:22                   ` Nick Desaulniers

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20230307184315.GS25951@gate.crashing.org \
    --to=segher@kernel.crashing.org \
    --cc=ananth.narayan@amd.com \
    --cc=babu.moger@amd.com \
    --cc=bp@alien8.de \
    --cc=eranian@google.com \
    --cc=fenghua.yu@intel.com \
    --cc=hpa@zytor.com \
    --cc=james.morse@arm.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=llvm@lists.linux.dev \
    --cc=nathan@kernel.org \
    --cc=ndesaulniers@google.com \
    --cc=peternewman@google.com \
    --cc=peterz@infradead.org \
    --cc=reinette.chatre@intel.com \
    --cc=tony.luck@intel.com \
    --cc=torvalds@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=vschneid@redhat.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).