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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "Enable '-Werror' by default for all kernel builds"
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 11:50:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a6kgerdk.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210913093256.GA12225@amd> (Pavel Machek's message of "Mon, 13 Sep 2021 11:32:56 +0200")

* Pavel Machek:

> Do we really want developers treat warnings as errors? When the code
> is okay but some random version of gcc dislikes it...

There are some warnings-as-errors which are quite reasonable, like
-Werror=implicit-function-declaration (which we can't make the compiler
default without cleaning up userspace first) and perhaps
-Werror=implicit-int.  Some other warnings can be used to enforce coding
style, and there -Werror could make sense as well (-Werror=vla and
others).

But there are also warnings which are emitted by the GCC middle-end (the
optimizers), and turning on -Werror for those is very problematic.
These warnings are very target-specific and also depend on compiler
version and optimization parameters.  Unfortunately that includes the
buffer size warnings based on function attributes (which would otherwise
be a good fit for the kernel because it uses few external headers).

GCC also lacks a facility to suppress warnings if they concern code that
was introduced during optimization and removed again later
(e.g. inlining, constant propagation, dead code removal).

Thanks,
Florian


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-09-13  9:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-07 18:38 [PATCH] Revert "Enable '-Werror' by default for all kernel builds" Nick Desaulniers
2021-09-07 18:55 ` Fāng-ruì Sòng
2021-09-07 19:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-09-07 20:30   ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-09-07 22:14     ` Marco Elver
2021-09-07 22:18       ` Linus Torvalds
2021-09-07 22:33         ` Randy Dunlap
2021-09-13  9:32           ` Pavel Machek
2021-09-13  9:46             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-09-13 10:02               ` Pavel Machek
2021-09-13 10:51                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-09-20 16:26                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-09-13  9:50             ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2021-09-13 17:42               ` Linus Torvalds
2021-09-13 14:33             ` Guenter Roeck
2021-09-07 22:28       ` Guenter Roeck
2021-09-07 22:42       ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-09-07 22:55       ` Mark Brown
2021-09-07 23:00       ` Nathan Chancellor
2021-09-07 23:35   ` Mark Brown
2021-09-08 16:12   ` Steven Rostedt

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