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From: Evgenii Stepanov <eugenis@google.com>
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
	Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Vitaly Buka <vitalybuka@google.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-toolchains <linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] Initialization of unused function parameters
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2022 15:08:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFKCwrjBjHMquj-adTf0_1QLYq3Et=gJ0rq6HS-qrAEmVA7Ujw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220614214039.GA25951@gate.crashing.org>

On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 2:45 PM Segher Boessenkool
<segher@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
> No such luck: the passing itself already causes UB.
>
> GCC does not warn, it has already optimised the code to what you expect
> by the time this warning is done.  If you use -fno-inline it does warn
> for both "c" and "size" (via -Wmaybe-uninitialized).
>
> But it is still UB!  All bets are off, no compiler can do any correct
> translation of your program, since there *is none*.

Clang also puts "noundef" attribute on most function arguments in the
frontend, and the optimizer can assume that the inputs are fully
initialized. The diagnostic for this is very imperfect.

What Alex is proposing (the KMSAN option) takes place *after*
inlining, so it will only enforce the "semantically meaningful" case
in Linus's words.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-14 22:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-14 14:48 [PATCH] [RFC] Initialization of unused function parameters Alexander Potapenko
2022-06-14 16:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-06-14 17:11   ` Nick Desaulniers
2022-06-14 17:24     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-06-14 18:08       ` Nick Desaulniers
2022-06-14 22:27         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-06-14 18:07   ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-06-14 18:30     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-06-14 20:19       ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-06-14 20:43         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-06-14 21:40         ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-06-14 22:08           ` Evgenii Stepanov [this message]
2022-06-15  8:30           ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-06-15 16:46             ` Segher Boessenkool

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