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From: Alexander Potapenko <>
To: Segher Boessenkool <>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <>,
	Evgenii Stepanov <>,
	Kees Cook <>, Marco Elver <>,
	Nathan Chancellor <>,
	Nick Desaulniers <>,
	Thomas Gleixner <>,
	Vitaly Buka <>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <>,
	linux-toolchains <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] Initialization of unused function parameters
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2022 10:30:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <>

On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 11:45 PM Segher Boessenkool
<> wrote:
> Hi!
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 10:19:53PM +0200, Alexander Potapenko wrote:
> > ================
> > char *kmalloc(int size);
> >
> > char *kmalloc_or_not(int flag, int size, char *p) {
> >   if (flag)
> >     return kmalloc(size);
> >   else
> >     return p;
> > }
> >
> > char global[16];
> >
> > char *p(int flag) {
> >   char *c;
> >   int size;
> >   if (flag)
> >     return kmalloc_or_not(1, 4, c);
> >   else
> >     return kmalloc_or_not(0, size, global);
> > }
> > ================
> Since C11, lvalue conversion of an automatic variable that does not have
> its address taken is explicitly undefined behaviour (  So in
> function "p", both where "c" and where "size" are passed causes UB (so
> that executing "p" always causes UB btw).

Thanks for this reference to the standard. I've received another one
off-list, which lets the variables be address-taken:

6.2.4/6: "If an initialization is specified for the object, it is
performed each time the declaration or compound literal is reached in
the execution of the block; otherwise, the value becomes indeterminate
each time the declaration is reached."
3.19.2/1: "indeterminate value: either an unspecified value or a trap
representation" "Certain object representations need not represent a value
of the object type. If the stored value of an object has such a
representation and is read by an lvalue expression that does not have
character type, the behavior is undefined. If such a representation is
produced by a side effect that modifies all or any part of the object
by an lvalue expression that does not have character type, the
behavior is undefined. [Footnote: Thus, an automatic variable can be
initialized to a trap representation without causing undefined
behavior, but the value of the variable cannot be used until a proper
value is stored in it.] Such a representation is called a trap

> > In this example `size` is passed into kmalloc_or_not() initialized,
> > however it is never used, so the code probably has defined behavior.
> No such luck: the passing itself already causes UB.

Looks like I've been missing this fact all the time.

> GCC does not warn, it has already optimised the code to what you expect
> by the time this warning is done.  If you use -fno-inline it does warn
> for both "c" and "size" (via -Wmaybe-uninitialized).
> But it is still UB!  All bets are off, no compiler can do any correct
> translation of your program, since there *is none*.

Then it makes sense for us to report non-trivial cases where
uninitialized values are actually passed to functions.
As Evgenii mentions, trivial inlinable cases are optimized away before
KMSAN instrumentation kicks in, so we won't be reporting them.

> Segher

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-06-15  8:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-14 14:48 [PATCH] [RFC] Initialization of unused function parameters Alexander Potapenko
2022-06-14 16:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-06-14 17:11   ` Nick Desaulniers
2022-06-14 17:24     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-06-14 18:08       ` Nick Desaulniers
2022-06-14 22:27         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-06-14 18:07   ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-06-14 18:30     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-06-14 20:19       ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-06-14 20:43         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-06-14 21:40         ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-06-14 22:08           ` Evgenii Stepanov
2022-06-15  8:30           ` Alexander Potapenko [this message]
2022-06-15 16:46             ` Segher Boessenkool

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