From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9170AC43217 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 20:24:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229895AbiJMUYW (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 Oct 2022 16:24:22 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:55454 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229933AbiJMUYM (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 Oct 2022 16:24:12 -0400 Received: from ams.source.kernel.org (ams.source.kernel.org [IPv6:2604:1380:4601:e00::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 154D918F276; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 13:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ams.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43085B82079; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 20:24:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C0E21C433D7; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 20:24:01 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1665692643; bh=I45PmGN6r3QU1UPGDQ2Icpn/q90F4aBf4xGvMScmOrg=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=KSGvG/xsCfNMe4yflpDDOLOQg5iE8PACLoOxjBdjgcddu5qOqFoAdj1tFGISNwVw5 j5hHECGVJwXupe19madVXl0ycgQNdhAj1yOFirx3EIi7v147OqtEZfOEb1G5D1C5zD hzwS98rXy5IsVAVWzJadV5GGtgZxMJlsvtKsMhQkpI6KrMRdCz0whEE41Epx6wOQNb ccu6hiZ1aRgn1mXDHttjfXegdgZ23wuW9jGDFV+DnqaEWb+MGl5/tM0/RoQ/p6afEZ u5URhA9yDsu+qsZTsgrr/K+lTVkJTVcZIoeWWtyMyjDXi5IdLYpHoGr2mDsYTnFeUS tgQnyFJnA8RPQ== Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 21:23:58 +0100 From: Mark Brown To: Florian Weimer Cc: "Jason A. Donenfeld" , linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org, Linux Kbuild mailing list , LKML Subject: Re: gcc 5 & 6 & others already out of date? Message-ID: References: <87o7ufwovp.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6IonEliHNUxFdwLj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87o7ufwovp.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> X-Cookie: The Killer Ducks are coming!!! Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org --6IonEliHNUxFdwLj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 08:38:02PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Mark Brown: > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 10:37:21AM -0600, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > > I was looking at your suggestion there - as a Debian user that feels a > > touch enthusiastic (though practically probably not actually a problem) > > since it's not too far off the release cadence, current Debian is at GCC > > 10 and we're not due for another release till sometime next year which > > will be right on the three years. > Debian also has Clang 13, presumably for building Rust and Firefox. Ah, so it does - nice! > > There does also seem to be a contingent of people running enterprise > > distros managed by an IT department or whatever who may take a while > > to get round to pushing out new versions so for example might still > > for example be running Ubuntu 20.04 rather than 22.04 (never mind the > > people I know are sitting on 18.04 but that's another thing). > The enterprise distributions have toolchain modules or toolsets that you > can install, all nicely integrated. You'd probably consider those > versions too new. 8-/ I expect it's mostly an education issue, raising > awareness of what's available from vendors. (glibc versions are a > different matter, but I don't think dropping support for historic > versions on build hosts is on the table, so that should be relevant.) Yeah, I found the ones for SLES easily enough but not the ones for RHEL or Ubuntu. Perfectly prepared to believe they're there though, it does seem like sometihng users might want. --6IonEliHNUxFdwLj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAABCgAdFiEEreZoqmdXGLWf4p/qJNaLcl1Uh9AFAmNIc90ACgkQJNaLcl1U h9Cwkwf8Dh7ytjTum9r3EZ+ZYk83cfb/Lw/fDn71e+8wI/WyZ6zuBtw/NUsDnOY6 eGPhSsCMq6Y2saNAyyBOxDwUW8BIBYpO6cdWHWxWJTB9Ez+9qc5h8jjDTZigc2Bk 6wIY7L5R3bgwdnOq75FivnlxYR/wjT4lq3O2WyirKWBQ1Lwh5z52RdLVsuOcBNvN p1ZN6eZ9D/3oz5CLiJ4+Nt/9AdTpED5eEtUNqq9D6a3/9JECj7gT99s29Yeoei3p 47qMth3j+g3oJDXJbwur+ETFOaKf5NEI1DlunTSlGO7uF0jdn8en62X2vudstzzc zF9/1EYcMtESGEcnC2MHZ5O1H/wgcw== =i5/S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6IonEliHNUxFdwLj--