From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD789C433F5 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 2021 02:12:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S240747AbhLBCPl (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Dec 2021 21:15:41 -0500 Received: from sender2-pp-o92.zoho.com.cn ([163.53.93.251]:25304 "EHLO sender2-pp-o92.zoho.com.cn" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S238880AbhLBCPl (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Dec 2021 21:15:41 -0500 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1638411101; cv=none; d=zoho.com.cn; s=zohoarc; b=Q4QQXAaMwNUEtSXUPPS/YOfNXlKMJk2z4qlbAR53dauC6PpZzt97NnVFlbHeUTR06reJpJtg/PJebo+bzxdosfxHex1wr/vhQ57DRJTvyjQmVwgWUIosqeVeH1QOAHsRaEE6JuEEXY3eXtMyXzySDaE6SSiqJiTiNhNRCvbVdrs= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zoho.com.cn; s=zohoarc; t=1638411101; h=Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:From:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:Subject:To; bh=+w5c16CfQO7ePlheYkXYE6GCq8jomkga+cYzxfhQ0os=; b=KvbCGbE+6xmZUulLWoQVsIMlg8tqCDIQSDWC2ZLVndG62DsUn+sCEyHlXPKTRxOP3u0JJF5FpEBgYx3kDkG7sEZzFVtOtpfr47gpR07J0Ok/m0BTq+A0L5LDKdrC1FHLPSa57tZTUo7HKeOEiHbjGefeFdB82x5/dYaY7iEI+EQ= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.zoho.com.cn; dkim=pass header.i=mykernel.net; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=cgxu519@mykernel.net; dmarc=pass header.from= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1638411101; s=zohomail; d=mykernel.net; i=cgxu519@mykernel.net; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; bh=+w5c16CfQO7ePlheYkXYE6GCq8jomkga+cYzxfhQ0os=; b=LOm4wWadDIWLqEiRwyWkXQfsKn6meMuDEmjLsdn4uhA7mG9arUJ1I/w3AM4aKEuL i90TvL06DmmjJ6jJQQKj527QcqXWvXF9awzLh3zpcjM10qwl9zGVGA2r/WC9ZWG8Zja g/3IdM50E6baPrFzy3SBx6CgK1xgCpfQIihCN21k= Received: from mail.baihui.com by mx.zoho.com.cn with SMTP id 1638411099213648.9100959012884; Thu, 2 Dec 2021 10:11:39 +0800 (CST) Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2021 10:11:39 +0800 From: Chengguang Xu Reply-To: cgxu519@mykernel.net To: "Amir Goldstein" Cc: "Jan Kara" , "Miklos Szeredi" , "linux-fsdevel" , "overlayfs" , "linux-kernel" , "ronyjin" , "charliecgxu" , "Vivek Goyal" Message-ID: <17d78e95c35.ceeffaaf22655.2727336036618811041@mykernel.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20211118112315.GD13047@quack2.suse.cz> <17d32ecf46e.124314f8f672.8832559275193368959@mykernel.net> <20211118164349.GB8267@quack2.suse.cz> <17d36d37022.1227b6f102736.1047689367927335302@mykernel.net> <20211130112206.GE7174@quack2.suse.cz> <17d719b79f9.d89bf95117881.5882353172682156775@mykernel.net> <17d73da701b.e571c37220081.6904057835107693340@mykernel.net> <17d74b08dcd.c0e94e6320632.9167792887632811518@mykernel.net> <20211201134610.GA1815@quack2.suse.cz> <17d76cf59ee.12f4517f122167.2687299278423224602@mykernel.net> Subject: Re: ovl_flush() behavior MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Importance: Medium User-Agent: ZohoCN Mail X-Mailer: ZohoCN Mail Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org ---- =E5=9C=A8 =E6=98=9F=E6=9C=9F=E5=9B=9B, 2021-12-02 07:23:17 Amir Golds= tein =E6=92=B0=E5=86=99 ---- > > > > > > To be honest I even don't fully understand what's the ->flush() logi= c in overlayfs. > > > Why should we open new underlying file when calling ->flush()? > > > Is it still correct in the case of opening lower layer first then co= py-uped case? > > > > > > > The semantics of flush() are far from being uniform across filesystems= . > > most local filesystems do nothing on close. > > most network fs only flush dirty data when a writer closes a file > > but not when a reader closes a file. > > It is hard to imagine that applications rely on flush-on-close of > > rdonly fd behavior and I agree that flushing only if original fd was u= pper > > makes more sense, so I am not sure if it is really essential for > > overlayfs to open an upper rdonly fd just to do whatever the upper fs > > would have done on close of rdonly fd, but maybe there is no good > > reason to change this behavior either. > > >=20 > On second thought, I think there may be a good reason to change > ovl_flush() otherwise I wouldn't have submitted commit > a390ccb316be ("fuse: add FOPEN_NOFLUSH") - I did observe > applications that frequently open short lived rdonly fds and suffered > undesired latencies on close(). >=20 > As for "changing existing behavior", I think that most fs used as > upper do not implement flush at all. > Using fuse/virtiofs as overlayfs upper is quite new, so maybe that > is not a problem and maybe the new behavior would be preferred > for those users? >=20 So is that mean simply redirect the ->flush request to original underlying = realfile? Thanks, Chengguang