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From: Sargun Dhillon <sargun@sargun.me>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	overlayfs <linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Giuseppe Scrivano <gscrivan@redhat.com>,
	Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh@redhat.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Chengguang Xu <cgxu519@mykernel.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/3] overlay: Add the ability to remount volatile directories when safe
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 08:27:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201118082707.GA15687@ircssh-2.c.rugged-nimbus-611.internal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOQ4uxjkmooYY-NAVrSZOU9BDP0azmbrrmkKNKgyQOURR6eqEg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 09:24:04AM +0200, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 8:29 PM Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 08:03:16PM +0200, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> > > > > C. "shutdown" the filesystem if writeback errors happened and return
> > > > >      EIO from any read, like some blockdev filesystems will do in face
> > > > >      of metadata write errors
> > > > >
> > > > > I happen to have a branch ready for that ;-)
> > > > > https://github.com/amir73il/linux/commits/ovl-shutdown
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This branch seems to implement shutdown ioctl. So it will still need
> > > > glue code to detect writeback failure in upper/ and trigger shutdown
> > > > internally?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yes.
> > > ovl_get_acess() can check both the administrative ofs->goingdown
> > > command and the upper writeback error condition for volatile ovl
> > > or something like that.
> >
> > This approach will not help mmaped() pages though, if I do.
> >
> > - Store to addr
> > - msync
> > - Load from addr
> >
> > There is a chance that I can still read back old data.
> >
> 
> msync does not go through overlay. It goes directly to upper fs,
> so it will sync pages and return error on volatile overlay as well.
> 
> Maybe there will still be weird corner cases, but the shutdown approach
> should cover most or all of the interesting cases.
When would we check the errseq_t of the upperdir? Only when the user
calls fsync, or upon close? Periodically?

> 
> Thanks,
> Amir.

We can tackle this later, but I suggest the following semantics, which
follow how ext4 works:

https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/ext4.txt
errors=remount-ro	Remount the filesystem read-only on an error.
errors=continue		Keep going on a filesystem error.
[Sargun: We probably don't want this one]
errors=panic		Panic and halt the machine if an error occurs.
                        (These mount options override the errors behavior
                        specified in the superblock, which can be configured
                        using tune2fs)

----
We can potentially add a fourth option, which is shutdown -- that would
return something like EIO or ESHUTDOWN for all calls.

In addition to that, we should pass through the right errseqs to make
the errseq helpers work:
int filemap_check_wb_err(struct address_space *mapping, errseq_t since) [1]
errseq_t filemap_sample_wb_err(struct address_space *mapping) [2]
errseq_t file_sample_sb_err(struct file *file)

etc...

These are used by the VFS layer to check for errors after syncfs or for 
interactions with mapped files. 

[1]: https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v5.9.7/source/include/linux/fs.h#L2665
[2]: https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v5.9.7/source/include/linux/fs.h#L2688
[3]: https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v5.9.7/source/include/linux/fs.h#L2700

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-18  8:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-16  4:57 [RFC PATCH 0/3] Make overlayfs volatile mounts reusable Sargun Dhillon
2020-11-16  4:57 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] fs: Add s_instance_id field to superblock for unique identification Sargun Dhillon
2020-11-16  5:07   ` Sargun Dhillon
2020-11-16  4:57 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] overlay: Add ovl_do_getxattr helper Sargun Dhillon
2020-11-16 11:00   ` Amir Goldstein
2020-11-16  4:57 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] overlay: Add the ability to remount volatile directories when safe Sargun Dhillon
2020-11-16  9:31   ` Amir Goldstein
2020-11-16 10:30     ` Sargun Dhillon
2020-11-16 11:17       ` Amir Goldstein
2020-11-16 12:52         ` Amir Goldstein
2020-11-16 14:42   ` Vivek Goyal
2020-11-16 14:45     ` Vivek Goyal
2020-11-16 15:20     ` Amir Goldstein
2020-11-16 16:36       ` Vivek Goyal
2020-11-16 18:25         ` Sargun Dhillon
2020-11-16 19:27           ` Vivek Goyal
2020-11-16 20:18         ` Amir Goldstein
2020-11-16 21:09           ` Vivek Goyal
2020-11-17  5:33             ` Amir Goldstein
2020-11-17 14:48               ` Vivek Goyal
2020-11-17 15:24                 ` Amir Goldstein
2020-11-17 15:40                   ` Vivek Goyal
2020-11-17 16:46                   ` Vivek Goyal
2020-11-17 18:03                     ` Amir Goldstein
2020-11-17 18:29                       ` Vivek Goyal
2020-11-18  7:24                         ` Amir Goldstein
2020-11-18  8:27                           ` Sargun Dhillon [this message]
2020-11-18 10:46                             ` Amir Goldstein
2020-11-18 14:55                           ` Vivek Goyal
2020-11-16 21:26           ` Vivek Goyal
2020-11-16 22:14             ` Sargun Dhillon
2020-11-17  5:41               ` Amir Goldstein
2020-11-17 17:05               ` Vivek Goyal
2020-11-16 17:38     ` Sargun Dhillon

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