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From: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: overlayfs <linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	Giuseppe Scrivano <gscrivan@redhat.com>,
	pmatilai@redhat.com, Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh@redhat.com>,
	Steven Whitehouse <swhiteho@redhat.com>,
	Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] overlayfs: Provide a mount option "nosync" to skip sync
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 20:42:16 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOQ4uxjs7KXxLPuWw3DNp6Q6T-p0miLT_qms6-JRTueDvx_oHw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200701162501.GA369085@redhat.com>

On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 7:25 PM Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 01:31:01PM +0300, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 10:37 PM Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Container folks are complaining that dnf/yum issues too many sync while
> > > installing packages and this slows down the image build. Build
> > > requirement is such that they don't care if a node goes down while
> > > build was still going on. In that case, they will simply throw away
> > > unfinished layer and start new build. So they don't care about syncing
> > > intermediate state to the disk and hence don't want to pay the price
> > > associated with sync.
> > >
> > > So they are asking for an option where they can disable sync on overlay
> > > mount point completely and user space will do sync management on upper
> > > layer as needed.
> > >
> >
> > Sounds reasonable.
> > I have a lot of comments below, but the bottom line is if you change "nosync"
> > to "sync=off" and adapt documentation, the patch itself looks fine to me
> > for addressing the "volatile container" use case.
>
> "sync" already seems to be a vfs mount option. man mount says.
>
>        sync   All I/O to the filesystem should be done synchronously.  In  the
>               case  of  media with a limited number of write cycles (e.g. some
>               flash drives), sync may cause life-cycle shortening.
>
> It will be good to choose a name which avoids confusion with filesystem
> independent option.
>
> Either we can separate options like "nosync" "fssync" "writebacksync" etc
> when use cases for difference kind of sync arise.
>
> Or would it make sense to call it "ovlsync=<foo>". That way it is
> plenty clear that it is overlay filesystem specific mount option.
>
> >
> > > They primarily seem to have two use cases.
> > >
> > > - For building images, they will mount overlay with nosync and then sync
> > >   upper layer after unmounting overlay and reuse upper as lower for next
> > >   layer.
> >
> > This sentence reads to me as if "sync upper layer" is simple, which is not
> > entirely true. syncfs(2) will sync ALL the upper layers of all containers even
> > in the best case where the filesystem is dedicated to containers storage.
> > The fact is that for this specific use case, the most optimal handling would
> > have been "sync on unmount/remount/syncfs but skip fsync".
> >
> > But of course, without improving the implementation of ovl_sync_fs(),
> > this is currently equivalent to what you are describing.
> > Still I feel that we do need to make this distinction and provide mount option
> > "sync=fs" instead of letting the container runtime take care of
> > "syncing upper layer"
> > this way when the day comes and "sync=fs" is properly implemented,
> > all container runtimes will win on kernel upgrade.
>
> I think this option should be useful for some cases where they want
> to skip intermediate sync but will like to sync on umount/remount/syncfs.
> In fact image build case probably should benefit from it.
>
> Giuseppe, is that correct that for image build you will need to sync
> upper layer. If that's the case, then providing a mount option and
> using that now is better so that applications don't have to change
> later when we have more efficient implementation of ovl_sync_fs().
>
> IOW, for the case of completely volatile container (kubernetes
> restarts container on separate node if node goes down), we could
> use ovlsync=off (or nosync) and for image build case, use ovlsync=syncfs.
>
> Giuseppe, does this sound reasonable for your needs.
>
> >
> > >
> > > - For running containers, they don't seem to care about syncing upper
> > >   layer because if node goes down, they will simply throw away upper
> > >   layer and create a fresh one.
> > >
> > > So this patch provides a mount option "nosync" which disables all forms
> > > of sync. Now it is caller's responsibility to manage sync of upper layer
> > > before it is reused again.
> > >
> > > I am seeing roughly 20% speed up in my VM where I am just installing
> > > emacs in an image. Installation time drops from 31 seconds to 25 seconds
> > > when nosync option is used. This is for the case of building on top
> > > of an image where all packages are already cached. That way I take
> > > out the network operations latency out of the measurement.
> > >
> > > Giuseppe is also looking to cut down on number of iops done on the
> > > disk. He is complaining that often in cloud their VMs are throttled
> > > if they cross the limit. This option can help them where they reduce
> > > number of iops (by cutting down on frequent sync and writebacks).
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Giuseppe Scrivano <gscrivan@redhat.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@redhat.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
> > > ---
> > >  Documentation/filesystems/overlayfs.rst | 20 ++++++++++++++++++++
> > >  fs/overlayfs/copy_up.c                  | 12 ++++++++----
> > >  fs/overlayfs/file.c                     | 11 ++++++++++-
> > >  fs/overlayfs/ovl_entry.h                |  1 +
> > >  fs/overlayfs/readdir.c                  |  3 +++
> > >  fs/overlayfs/super.c                    | 23 ++++++++++++++++++++---
> > >  6 files changed, 62 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/Documentation/filesystems/overlayfs.rst b/Documentation/filesystems/overlayfs.rst
> > > index 660dbaf0b9b8..0a42f26a3f0c 100644
> > > --- a/Documentation/filesystems/overlayfs.rst
> > > +++ b/Documentation/filesystems/overlayfs.rst
> > > @@ -563,6 +563,26 @@ This verification may cause significant overhead in some cases.
> > >  Note: the mount options index=off,nfs_export=on are conflicting and will
> > >  result in an error.
> > >
> > > +Disable sync
> > > +------------
> > > +By default, overlay skips sync on files residing on a lower layer.  It
> > > +is possible to skip sync operations for files on the upper layer as well
> > > +with the 'nosync' mount option. This option disables all forms of sync
> > > +from overlay, including the one done at umount/remount and it is
> > > +user's responsibility to sync upper layer on the file system it
> > > +is residing.
> > > +
> > > +With this option, data loss will happen if overlayfs upper layer is
> > > +not synced. So use this option very carefully. This is only for the
> > > +use cases where users discard upper layer if they could not sync it
> > > +successfully.
> > > +
> > > +Typically workflow will be.
> > > +
> > > +- mount overlay
> > > +- Do bunch of operations
> > > +- unmount overlay
> > > +- sync filesystem container upper layer
> >
> > I don't like to document this workflow, because I think it is wrong.
>
> Why is it wrong. User can do "syncfs" on filesystem upper is residing.
> If we decide to provide "ovlsync=syncfs", then we should document
> that instead.
>

not wrong in the sense that it would not work.
wrong in the sense that it is the wrong way to go IMO as opposed to sync=fs.

> > Please document only the "volatile container" use case for "sync=off".
>
> I guess we are now splitting it in two use cases. "volatile container"
> will use sync=off. And image build will use sync=fs.
>
> >
> > >
> > >  Testsuite
> > >  ---------
> > > diff --git a/fs/overlayfs/copy_up.c b/fs/overlayfs/copy_up.c
> > > index 79dd052c7dbf..5431a89bbd8a 100644
> > > --- a/fs/overlayfs/copy_up.c
> > > +++ b/fs/overlayfs/copy_up.c
> > > @@ -128,7 +128,8 @@ int ovl_copy_xattr(struct dentry *old, struct dentry *new)
> > >         return error;
> > >  }
> > >
> > > -static int ovl_copy_up_data(struct path *old, struct path *new, loff_t len)
> > > +static int ovl_copy_up_data(struct ovl_fs *ofs, struct path *old,
> > > +                           struct path *new, loff_t len)
> > >  {
> > >         struct file *old_file;
> > >         struct file *new_file;
> > > @@ -218,7 +219,7 @@ static int ovl_copy_up_data(struct path *old, struct path *new, loff_t len)
> > >                 len -= bytes;
> > >         }
> > >  out:
> > > -       if (!error)
> > > +       if (!error && !ofs->config.nosync)
> > >                 error = vfs_fsync(new_file, 0);
> >
> > Two points about this:
> >
> > 1. The purpose of this particular fsync is different from user requested fsync.
> > Example:
> > If a user chowns all files in a tree on xfs/ext4, ~1 minute later,
> > changes will likely
> > be safely stored because of periodic journal commit.
> > This is not a filesystem guaranty, but that's the way it is and if that were to
> > change, surely some users will notice and complain as happened in the past
> > with ext3 -> ext4 transition [1].
> >
> > If a user chowns all files in a tree on overlay (without metacopy)
> > over xfs/ext4,
> > ~1 minute later, changes will not have been safely stored if it wasn't
> > for this fsync.
> > The reason is delayed allocation of blocks of the new upper file.
> > ext4 has some heuristics in place to start writeback after rename over a file
> > (see NO_AUTO_DA_ALLOC), but not for linking an O_TMPFILE.
> >
> > 2. What could be useful is a mount option (e.g. sync=writeback) to convert this
> > vfs_fsync() to either filemap_flush() or filemap_fdatawrite().
> > This will start writeback on the new file with/without blocking and
> > without issuing
> > any FLUSH to block layer. Periodic journal commit will take care of the rest.
> > Again, this is not a guarantee that filesystems make and my attempts
> > to formalize
> > this as an user API in LSFMM did not go far, but it is a powerful tool
> > that container
> > administrators who know which underlying filesystem they use can make use of
> > and the performance benefit for setup of thousands of containers should be very
> > noticeable.
> >
> > [1] https://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2009/03/12/delayed-allocation-and-the-zero-length-file-problem/
>
> Ok, so somebody who needs this behavior down the line that copied up
> file gets to stable storage after a minute or so, then we need to
> look into sync=writeback option.
>

Sure, I just told the long story to explain that other sync options could
develop in the future.

> >
> >
> > >         fput(new_file);
> > >  out_fput:
> > > @@ -484,6 +485,7 @@ static int ovl_link_up(struct ovl_copy_up_ctx *c)
> > >
> > >  static int ovl_copy_up_inode(struct ovl_copy_up_ctx *c, struct dentry *temp)
> > >  {
> > > +       struct ovl_fs *ofs = OVL_FS(c->dentry->d_sb);
> > >         int err;
> > >
> > >         /*
> > > @@ -499,7 +501,8 @@ static int ovl_copy_up_inode(struct ovl_copy_up_ctx *c, struct dentry *temp)
> > >                 upperpath.dentry = temp;
> > >
> > >                 ovl_path_lowerdata(c->dentry, &datapath);
> > > -               err = ovl_copy_up_data(&datapath, &upperpath, c->stat.size);
> > > +               err = ovl_copy_up_data(ofs, &datapath, &upperpath,
> > > +                                      c->stat.size);
> > >                 if (err)
> > >                         return err;
> > >         }
> > > @@ -784,6 +787,7 @@ static bool ovl_need_meta_copy_up(struct dentry *dentry, umode_t mode,
> > >  /* Copy up data of an inode which was copied up metadata only in the past. */
> > >  static int ovl_copy_up_meta_inode_data(struct ovl_copy_up_ctx *c)
> > >  {
> > > +       struct ovl_fs *ofs = OVL_FS(c->dentry->d_sb);
> > >         struct path upperpath, datapath;
> > >         int err;
> > >         char *capability = NULL;
> > > @@ -804,7 +808,7 @@ static int ovl_copy_up_meta_inode_data(struct ovl_copy_up_ctx *c)
> > >                         goto out;
> > >         }
> > >
> > > -       err = ovl_copy_up_data(&datapath, &upperpath, c->stat.size);
> > > +       err = ovl_copy_up_data(ofs, &datapath, &upperpath, c->stat.size);
> > >         if (err)
> > >                 goto out_free;
> > >
> > > diff --git a/fs/overlayfs/file.c b/fs/overlayfs/file.c
> > > index 01820e654a21..a361890a8d05 100644
> > > --- a/fs/overlayfs/file.c
> > > +++ b/fs/overlayfs/file.c
> > > @@ -329,6 +329,7 @@ static ssize_t ovl_write_iter(struct kiocb *iocb, struct iov_iter *iter)
> > >         struct fd real;
> > >         const struct cred *old_cred;
> > >         ssize_t ret;
> > > +       int ifl = iocb->ki_flags;
> > >
> > >         if (!iov_iter_count(iter))
> > >                 return 0;
> > > @@ -344,11 +345,14 @@ static ssize_t ovl_write_iter(struct kiocb *iocb, struct iov_iter *iter)
> > >         if (ret)
> > >                 goto out_unlock;
> > >
> > > +       if (OVL_FS(inode->i_sb)->config.nosync)
> > > +               ifl &= ~(IOCB_DSYNC | IOCB_SYNC);
> > > +
> > >         old_cred = ovl_override_creds(file_inode(file)->i_sb);
> > >         if (is_sync_kiocb(iocb)) {
> > >                 file_start_write(real.file);
> > >                 ret = vfs_iter_write(real.file, iter, &iocb->ki_pos,
> > > -                                    ovl_iocb_to_rwf(iocb->ki_flags));
> > > +                                    ovl_iocb_to_rwf(ifl));
> > >                 file_end_write(real.file);
> > >                 /* Update size */
> > >                 ovl_copyattr(ovl_inode_real(inode), inode);
> > > @@ -368,6 +372,7 @@ static ssize_t ovl_write_iter(struct kiocb *iocb, struct iov_iter *iter)
> > >                 real.flags = 0;
> > >                 aio_req->orig_iocb = iocb;
> > >                 kiocb_clone(&aio_req->iocb, iocb, real.file);
> > > +               aio_req->iocb.ki_flags = ifl;
> > >                 aio_req->iocb.ki_complete = ovl_aio_rw_complete;
> > >                 ret = vfs_iocb_iter_write(real.file, &aio_req->iocb, iter);
> > >                 if (ret != -EIOCBQUEUED)
> > > @@ -430,6 +435,10 @@ static int ovl_fsync(struct file *file, loff_t start, loff_t end, int datasync)
> > >         struct fd real;
> > >         const struct cred *old_cred;
> > >         int ret;
> > > +       struct ovl_fs *ofs = OVL_FS(file_inode(file)->i_sb);
> > > +
> > > +       if (ofs->config.nosync)
> > > +               return 0;
> > >
> >
> > Can convert the vfs_sync_range() to filemap_fdatawrite_range() with
> > "sync=writeback"
>
> For now I will leave it as it is. This can be changed once we implement
> sync=writeback.
>
> >
> > >         ret = ovl_real_fdget_meta(file, &real, !datasync);
> > >         if (ret)
> > > diff --git a/fs/overlayfs/ovl_entry.h b/fs/overlayfs/ovl_entry.h
> > > index b429c80879ee..034a8d9897e0 100644
> > > --- a/fs/overlayfs/ovl_entry.h
> > > +++ b/fs/overlayfs/ovl_entry.h
> > > @@ -17,6 +17,7 @@ struct ovl_config {
> > >         bool nfs_export;
> > >         int xino;
> > >         bool metacopy;
> > > +       bool nosync;
> > >  };
> > >
> > >  struct ovl_sb {
> > > diff --git a/fs/overlayfs/readdir.c b/fs/overlayfs/readdir.c
> > > index 6918b98faeb6..9e93db028dbf 100644
> > > --- a/fs/overlayfs/readdir.c
> > > +++ b/fs/overlayfs/readdir.c
> > > @@ -863,6 +863,9 @@ static int ovl_dir_fsync(struct file *file, loff_t start, loff_t end,
> > >         if (!OVL_TYPE_UPPER(ovl_path_type(dentry)))
> > >                 return 0;
> > >
> > > +       if (OVL_FS(dentry->d_sb)->config.nosync)
> > > +               return 0;
> > > +
> > >         /*
> > >          * Need to check if we started out being a lower dir, but got copied up
> > >          */
> > > diff --git a/fs/overlayfs/super.c b/fs/overlayfs/super.c
> > > index 91476bc422f9..c28ab39b5c70 100644
> > > --- a/fs/overlayfs/super.c
> > > +++ b/fs/overlayfs/super.c
> > > @@ -264,6 +264,8 @@ static int ovl_sync_fs(struct super_block *sb, int wait)
> > >         if (!ovl_upper_mnt(ofs))
> > >                 return 0;
> > >
> > > +       if (ofs->config.nosync)
> > > +               return 0;
> >
> > I'd be happier if we implement "sync=off/fs" from the start, or at least make
> > ofs->config.sync an enum or bit mask to represent these modes, even if
> > we only implement mount option "sync=off" to begin with.
>
> I am also in favor of implementing ovlsync=fs from the beginning, if
> that's what image build use case is going to use. That way, build
> will use correct options from the beginning and they will automatically
> benefit when overlayfs improves sync_fs to only sync inodes of
> upper/ (and not whole filesystem).
>
> >
> > >         /*
> > >          * Not called for sync(2) call or an emergency sync (SB_I_SKIP_SYNC).
> > >          * All the super blocks will be iterated, including upper_sb.
> > > @@ -362,6 +364,8 @@ static int ovl_show_options(struct seq_file *m, struct dentry *dentry)
> > >         if (ofs->config.metacopy != ovl_metacopy_def)
> > >                 seq_printf(m, ",metacopy=%s",
> > >                            ofs->config.metacopy ? "on" : "off");
> > > +       if (ofs->config.nosync)
> > > +               seq_puts(m, ",nosync");
> > >         return 0;
> > >  }
> > >
> > > @@ -376,9 +380,11 @@ static int ovl_remount(struct super_block *sb, int *flags, char *data)
> > >
> > >         if (*flags & SB_RDONLY && !sb_rdonly(sb)) {
> > >                 upper_sb = ovl_upper_mnt(ofs)->mnt_sb;
> > > -               down_read(&upper_sb->s_umount);
> > > -               ret = sync_filesystem(upper_sb);
> > > -               up_read(&upper_sb->s_umount);
> > > +               if (!ofs->config.nosync) {
> > > +                       down_read(&upper_sb->s_umount);
> > > +                       ret = sync_filesystem(upper_sb);
> > > +                       up_read(&upper_sb->s_umount);
> > > +               }
> > >         }
> > >
> > >         return ret;
> > > @@ -411,6 +417,7 @@ enum {
> > >         OPT_XINO_AUTO,
> > >         OPT_METACOPY_ON,
> > >         OPT_METACOPY_OFF,
> > > +       OPT_NOSYNC,
> > >         OPT_ERR,
> > >  };
> > >
> > > @@ -429,6 +436,7 @@ static const match_table_t ovl_tokens = {
> > >         {OPT_XINO_AUTO,                 "xino=auto"},
> > >         {OPT_METACOPY_ON,               "metacopy=on"},
> > >         {OPT_METACOPY_OFF,              "metacopy=off"},
> > > +       {OPT_NOSYNC,                    "nosync"},
> >
> > As should be very clear by now, I prefer that we call the option "sync=off",
> > so that we can later (or now) also implement "sync=fs" and maybe also
> > "sync=writeback", but plus that one semantic change, I am fine with the
> > patch as is.
>
> I think sync=writeback I will defer for later when somebody needs it.
> For now, I like the idea of implementing sync=off and sync=fs. Now
> we just need to decide on naming of the option. ovlsync=off/fs sounds
> good?
>

uppersync=off/fs?

Thanks,
Amir.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-01 17:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-30 19:37 [RFC PATCH] overlayfs: Provide a mount option "nosync" to skip sync Vivek Goyal
2020-07-01 10:31 ` Amir Goldstein
2020-07-01 16:25   ` Vivek Goyal
2020-07-01 17:42     ` Amir Goldstein [this message]
2020-07-16 20:41 ` Vivek Goyal

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