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From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	taehyun cho <taehyun.cho@samsung.com>,
	Felipe Balbi <balbi@kernel.org>,
	USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] usb: dwc3: make USB_DWC3_EXYNOS independent
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 17:50:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <159d72a6-e200-913f-6ec1-4668db797a04@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a6ac3887-38d0-48f4-e06f-81b45484a54a@kernel.org>

On 03/03/2021 17:49, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> And "new drivers" are almost always not really "new" as everyone uses
>> much the same IP blocks.  As proof of this patch where the DWC3 IP block
>> is being used by multiple SoC vendors.  To handle that, you split out
>> the SoC-specific portions into sub-drivers, so that you can build a
>> single image of the driver that works on multiple platforms.  Nothing
>> new, we've been doing this for years, it's just that out-of-mainline SoC
>> trees that think they can touch "core IP block code" break this all the
>> time, which is what I am pushing back on.
> 
> I am perfectly fine with (and like it!) putting dwc3 exynos back into 
> base/main dwc3  and getting rid of USB_DWC3_EXYNOS entirely. But this 
> was not part of this patch...
> 
>>
>> Anyway, this is just me as a driver subsystem maintainer being grumpy to
>> see ARCH_ dependancies on tiny little things like SoC-portions for
>> generic IP drivers.  Or on individual drivers (i.e. Samsung serial port
>> driver), where they don't belong at all.
> 
> At least with Samsung serial driver we see adding new SoC - Apple M1.
> 
> Here, the guys in Samsung want to tweak several kernel parts to work 
> with their out-of-tree code without contributing this code back. It's 
> not a community-friendly approach. The upstream kernel should be tweaked 
> to the out-of-tree unknown, hidden and uncontrollable code.

Eh, obviously I wanted to say:
The upstream kernel should *not* be tweaked to the out-of-tree unknown, 
hidden and uncontrollable code.

> 
> Instead I expect from Samsung to contribute the basic Exynos9 support to 
> the upstream.

Best regards,
Krzysztof

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-04  0:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20210303022537epcas2p1b85ab825ceca3a411a177cc1af8a2c7b@epcas2p1.samsung.com>
2021-03-03  2:26 ` [PATCH] usb: dwc3: make USB_DWC3_EXYNOS independent taehyun cho
2021-03-03 10:24   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-03 10:30     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-03-03 10:38       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-03 11:01         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-03 12:54         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-03 14:05         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-03-03 14:56           ` Guenter Roeck
2021-03-03 15:09             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-03-03 15:46               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-03 16:33                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-03 16:43                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-03-03 16:49                     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-03 16:50                       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2021-03-03 16:56                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-03-03 19:40                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-03 15:44           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-03 17:51           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-03 13:12     ` taehyun cho
2021-03-03 13:15       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
     [not found] <taehyun cho>
     [not found] ` <CGME20210208112816epcas2p43777bb9740f7307e38cb534f01099126@epcas2p4.samsung.com>
2021-02-08 11:29   ` taehyun cho
2021-02-08 11:39     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found] ` <CGME20210208114447epcas2p3507f22a555355ac7710c5ca220853e0e@epcas2p3.samsung.com>
2021-02-08 11:45   ` taehyun cho
2021-02-08 11:57     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-02-08 13:05     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski

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