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From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Damien Le Moal <Damien.LeMoal@wdc.com>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Andrea Vai <andrea.vai@unipv.it>,
	Johannes Thumshirn <jthumshirn@suse.de>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	SCSI development list <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Himanshu Madhani <himanshu.madhani@cavium.com>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.com>, Omar Sandoval <osandov@fb.com>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Hans Holmberg <Hans.Holmberg@wdc.com>
Subject: Re: Slow I/O on USB media after commit f664a3cc17b7d0a2bc3b3ab96181e1029b0ec0e6
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2019 17:21:15 +0800
Message-ID: <20190919092114.GB4541@ming.t460p> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR04MB58163D3C66FEA00A754CF7C7E7890@BYAPR04MB5816.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 09:09:33AM +0000, Damien Le Moal wrote:
> On 2019/09/19 10:56, Ming Lei wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 08:26:32AM +0000, Damien Le Moal wrote:
> >> On 2019/09/18 18:30, Alan Stern wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 18 Sep 2019, Andrea Vai wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> Also, I wonder if the changing the size of the data transfers would
> >>>>> make any difference.  This is easy to try; just write "64" to
> >>>>> /sys/block/sd?/queue/max_sectors_kb (where the ? is the appropriate
> >>>>> drive letter) after the drive is plugged in but before the test
> >>>>> starts.
> >>>>
> >>>> ok, so I duplicated the tests above for the "64" case (it was
> >>>> initially set as "120", if it is relevant to know), leading to 40 tests named as
> >>>>
> >>>> bad.mon.out_50000000_64_TIMESTAMP
> >>>> bad.mon.out_50000000_non64_TIMESTAMP
> >>>> good.mon.out_50000000_64_TIMESTAMP
> >>>> good.mon.out_50000000_non64_TIMESTAMP
> >>>>
> >>>> where "64" denotes the ones done with that value in max_sectors_kb,
> >>>> and "not64" the ones without it (as far as I can tell, it has been
> >>>> always "120").
> >>>>
> >>>> So, we have 40 traces total. Each set of 10 trials is identified by
> >>>> a text file, which contains the output log of the test script (and the
> >>>> timestamps), also available in the download zipfile.
> >>>>
> >>>> Just to summarize here the times, they are respectively (number
> >>>> expressed  in seconds):
> >>>>
> >>>> BAD:
> >>>>   Logs: log_10trials_50MB_BAD_NonCanc_64.txt,
> >>>> log_10trials_50MB_BAD_NonCanc_non64.txt
> >>>>   64: 34, 34, 35, 39, 37, 32, 42, 44, 43, 40
> >>>>   not64: 61, 71, 59, 71, 62, 75, 62, 70, 62, 68
> >>>> GOOD:
> >>>>   Logs: log_10trials_50MB_GOOD_NonCanc_64.txt,
> >>>> log_10trials_50MB_GOOD_NonCanc_non64.txt
> >>>>   64: 34, 32, 35, 34, 35, 33, 34, 33, 33, 33
> >>>>   not64: 32, 30, 32, 31, 31, 30, 32, 30, 32, 31
> >>>
> >>> The improvement from using "64" with the bad kernel is quite large.  
> >>> That alone would be a big help for you.
> >>>
> >>> However, I did see what appears to be a very significant difference 
> >>> between the bad and good kernel traces.  It has to do with the order in 
> >>> which the blocks are accessed.
> >>>
> >>> Here is an extract from one of the bad traces.  I have erased all the 
> >>> information except for the columns containing the block numbers to be 
> >>> written:
> >>>
> >>> 00019628 00
> >>> 00019667 00
> >>> 00019628 80
> >>> 00019667 80
> >>> 00019629 00
> >>> 00019668 00
> >>> 00019629 80
> >>> 00019668 80
> >>>
> >>> Here is the equivalent portion from one of the good traces:
> >>>
> >>> 00019628 00
> >>> 00019628 80
> >>> 00019629 00
> >>> 00019629 80
> >>> 0001962a 00
> >>> 0001962a 80
> >>> 0001962b 00
> >>> 0001962b 80
> >>>
> >>> Notice that under the good kernel, the block numbers increase
> >>> monotonically in a single sequence.  But under the bad kernel, the
> >>> block numbers are not monotonic -- it looks like there are two separate
> >>> threads each with its own strictly increasing sequence.
> >>>
> >>> This is exactly the sort of difference one might expect to see from
> >>> the commit f664a3cc17b7 ("scsi: kill off the legacy IO path") you
> >>> identified as the cause of the problem.  With multiqueue I/O, it's not 
> >>> surprising to see multiple sequences of block numbers.
> >>>
> >>> Add it's not at all surprising that a consumer-grade USB storage device 
> >>> might do a much worse job of handling non-sequential writes than 
> >>> sequential ones.
> >>>
> >>> Which leads to a simple question for the SCSI or block-layer 
> >>> maintainers:  Is there a sysfs setting Andrea can tweak which will 
> >>> effectively restrict a particular disk device down to a single I/O
> >>> queue, forcing sequential access?
> >>
> >> The scheduling inefficiency you are seeing may be coming from the fact that the
> >> block layer does a direct issue of requests, bypassing the elevator, under some
> >> conditions. One of these is sync requests on a multiqueue device. We hit this
> >> problem on Zoned disks which can easily return an error for write requests
> >> without the elevator throttling writes per zones (zone write locking). This
> >> problem was discovered by Hans (on CC).
> >>
> >> I discussed this with Hannes yesterday and we think we have a fix, but we'll
> >> need to do a lot of testing as all block devices are potentially impacted by the
> >> change, including stacked drivers (DM). Performance regression is scary with any
> >> change in that area (see blk_mq_make_request() and use of
> >> blk_mq_try_issue_directly() vs blk_mq_sched_insert_request()).
> > 
> > Not sure this one is same with yours, for USB, mq-deadline is used at
> > default, and direct issue won't be possible. Direct issue is only used
> > in case of none or underlying queues of DM multipath.
> 
> For a multi-queue zoned disk, mq-deadline is also set, but we have observed
> unaligned write IO errors for sync writes because of mq-deadline being bypassed
> and as a result zones not being write-locked.
> 
> In blk_mq_make_request(), at the end, you have:
> 
> 	} else if ((q->nr_hw_queues > 1 && is_sync) || (!q->elevator &&
> 			!data.hctx->dispatch_busy)) {
> 		blk_mq_try_issue_directly(data.hctx, rq, &cookie);
> 	} else {
> 		blk_mq_sched_insert_request(rq, false, true, true);
> 	}
> 
> Which I read as "for a sync req on a multi-queue device, direct issue",
> regardless of the elevator being none or something else.

Yeah, looks elevator is bypassed in the above case, which seems a bug.
USB storage has only single queue.

> 
> The correct test should probably be:
> 
> 	} else if (!q->elevator &&
> 		   ((q->nr_hw_queues > 1 && is_sync) || 	
> 		     !data.hctx->dispatch_busy))) {
> 		blk_mq_try_issue_directly(data.hctx, rq, &cookie);
> 	} else {
> 		blk_mq_sched_insert_request(rq, false, true, true);
> 	}
> 
> That is, never bypass the elevator if one is set. Thoughts ?

IMO, elevator shouldn't be bypassed any time, looks it is bypassed
in the following branch too, but may not be reached for zone device.

blk_mq_make_request()
 ...
 } else if (plug && !blk_queue_nomerges(q)) {
	...
	if (same_queue_rq) {
                        data.hctx = same_queue_rq->mq_hctx;
                        trace_block_unplug(q, 1, true);
                        blk_mq_try_issue_directly(data.hctx, same_queue_rq,
                                        &cookie);
                }
 }


Thanks,
Ming

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Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <307581a490b610c3025ee80f79a465a89d68ed19.camel@unipv.it>
2019-08-20 17:13 ` Alan Stern
2019-08-23 10:39   ` Andrea Vai
2019-08-23 20:42     ` Alan Stern
2019-08-26  6:09       ` Andrea Vai
2019-08-26 16:33         ` Alan Stern
2019-09-18 15:25           ` Andrea Vai
2019-09-18 16:30             ` Alan Stern
2019-09-19  7:33               ` Andrea Vai
2019-09-19 17:54                 ` Alan Stern
2019-09-20  7:25                   ` Andrea Vai
2019-09-20  7:44                     ` Greg KH
2019-09-19  8:26               ` Damien Le Moal
2019-09-19  8:55                 ` Ming Lei
2019-09-19  9:09                   ` Damien Le Moal
2019-09-19  9:21                     ` Ming Lei [this message]
2019-09-19 14:01                 ` Alan Stern
2019-09-19 14:14                   ` Damien Le Moal
2019-09-20  7:03                     ` Andrea Vai
2019-09-25 19:30                       ` Alan Stern
2019-09-25 19:36                         ` Jens Axboe
2019-09-27 15:47                           ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-04 16:00                             ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-04 18:20                               ` Alan Stern
2019-11-05 11:48                                 ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-05 18:31                                   ` Alan Stern
2019-11-05 23:29                                     ` Jens Axboe
2019-11-06 16:03                                       ` Alan Stern
2019-11-06 22:13                                         ` Damien Le Moal
2019-11-07  7:04                                           ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-07  7:54                                             ` Damien Le Moal
2019-11-07 18:59                                               ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-08  8:42                                                 ` Damien Le Moal
2019-11-08 14:33                                                   ` Jens Axboe
2019-11-11 10:46                                                     ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-09 10:09                                                   ` Ming Lei
2019-11-09 22:28                                                 ` Ming Lei
2019-11-11 10:50                                                   ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-11 11:05                                                     ` Ming Lei
2019-11-11 11:13                                                       ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-22 19:16                                                   ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-23  7:28                                                     ` Ming Lei
2019-11-23 15:44                                                       ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-25  3:54                                                         ` Ming Lei
2019-11-25 10:11                                                           ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-25 10:29                                                             ` Ming Lei
2019-11-25 14:58                                                               ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-25 15:15                                                                 ` Ming Lei
2019-11-25 18:51                                                                   ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-26  2:32                                                                     ` Ming Lei
2019-11-26  7:46                                                                       ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-26  9:15                                                                         ` Ming Lei
2019-11-26 10:24                                                                           ` Ming Lei
2019-11-26 11:14                                                                           ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-27  2:05                                                                             ` Ming Lei
2019-11-27  9:39                                                                               ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-27 13:08                                                                                 ` Ming Lei
2019-11-27 15:01                                                                                   ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-27  0:21                                                                         ` Finn Thain
2019-11-27  8:14                                                                           ` AW: " Schmid, Carsten
2019-11-27 21:49                                                                             ` Finn Thain
2019-11-28  7:46                                                                             ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-28  8:12                                                                               ` AW: " Schmid, Carsten
2019-11-28 11:40                                                                                 ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-28 17:39                                                                                 ` Alan Stern
2019-11-28  9:17                                                                               ` Ming Lei
2019-11-28 17:34                                                                                 ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-29  0:57                                                                                   ` Ming Lei
2019-11-29  2:35                                                                                     ` Ming Lei
2019-11-29 14:41                                                                                       ` Andrea Vai
2019-12-03  2:23                                                                                         ` Ming Lei
2019-11-29 11:44                                                                                     ` Bernd Schubert
2019-12-02  7:01                                                                                       ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-28 17:10                                                                           ` Andrea Vai
     [not found] <e3f87757f7a0fdf551e911ad32fc8122eebe04c7.camel@unipv.it>
2019-08-13 19:52 ` Alan Stern
2019-07-02 10:46 Andrea Vai
2019-07-02 11:51 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2019-07-02 22:36   ` Andrea Vai
2019-07-03  7:29     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2019-07-03 14:23       ` Alan Stern
2019-07-06 22:06         ` Andrea Vai
2019-07-08 15:38           ` Alan Stern
2019-07-02 12:01 ` Ming Lei
2019-07-02 22:39   ` Andrea Vai
2019-07-03  2:01     ` Ming Lei
2019-07-03  5:11       ` Andrea Vai
2019-07-03  6:36         ` Ming Lei
2019-07-03 15:27           ` Chris Murphy
2019-07-06  9:33           ` Andrea Vai
2019-07-08  1:01             ` Ming Lei
2019-07-09 21:18               ` Andrea Vai
2019-07-10  2:44                 ` Ming Lei

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