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From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
To: Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.de>
Cc: Eli Billauer <eli.billauer@gmail.com>,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org,
	hdegoede@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] usb: core: Solve race condition in usb_kill_anchored_urbs
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 10:43:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200727144357.GB1468275@rowland.harvard.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1595858285.13408.36.camel@suse.de>

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 03:58:05PM +0200, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> Am Montag, den 27.07.2020, 14:27 +0300 schrieb Eli Billauer:
> > Hello, Oliver.
> > 
> > On 27/07/20 13:14, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> > > That however is really a kludge we cannot have in usbcore.
> > > I am afraid as is the patch should_not_  be applied.
> > >    
> > 
> > Could you please explain further why the suggested patch is unsuitable?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> certainly.
> 
> 1. timeouts are generally a bad idea, especially if the timeout does
> not come out of a spec.
> 
> 2. That involves quoting you:
> 
> Alternatively, if the driver submits URBs to the same anchor while 
> usb_kill_anchored_urbs() is called, this timeout might be reached. This 

That would be a bug in the driver, though.  In such a situation, a WARN 
is worth having.

> could happen, for example, if the completer function that ran in the 
> racy situation resubmits the URB. If that situation isn't cleared within 
> 1000ms, it means that there's a URB in the system that the driver isn't 
> aware of. Maybe that situation is worth more than a WARN.
> 
> That is an entirely valid use case. And a bulk URB may take a potentially
> unbounded time to complete.

It is _not_ a valid use case.  Since usb_kill_anchored_urbs() doesn't' 
specify whether it will kill URBs that are added to the anchor after it 
is called (and before it returns), a driver that anchors URBs at such a 
time is buggy.

Maybe this should be mentioned in the kerneldoc for the routine: Drivers 
must not add URBs to the anchor while the routine is running.

> My failure in this case is simply overengineering.
> If this line:
> 
>         usb_unanchor_urb(urb);
> 
> In __usb_hcd_giveback_urb(struct urb *urb) weren't there, the issue
> would not exist. I misdesigned the API in automatically unanchoring
> a completing URB.
> Simply removing it now is no longer possible, so we need to come up with
> a more complex solution.

Given that this timeout-based API is already present and being used in a 
separate context, I don't see anything wrong with using it here as well.

Alan Stern

  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-27 14:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-27  7:22 [PATCH] usb: core: Solve race condition in usb_kill_anchored_urbs eli.billauer
2020-07-27  9:21 ` Greg KH
2020-07-27 11:26   ` Eli Billauer
2020-07-27 10:14 ` Oliver Neukum
2020-07-27 11:27   ` Eli Billauer
2020-07-27 13:58     ` Oliver Neukum
2020-07-27 14:43       ` Alan Stern [this message]
2020-07-27 21:29         ` Oliver Neukum
2020-07-28  9:47           ` Eli Billauer
2020-07-28 13:42             ` Alan Stern
2020-07-28  9:44         ` Oliver Neukum
2020-07-28 13:39           ` Alan Stern

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