From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,INCLUDES_CR_TRAILER,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936D8C4338F for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2021 12:48:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7019760F9E for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2021 12:48:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S235226AbhG1Ms3 (ORCPT ); Wed, 28 Jul 2021 08:48:29 -0400 Received: from mail.zeus.flokli.de ([88.198.15.28]:39060 "EHLO zeus.flokli.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S233315AbhG1Ms2 (ORCPT ); Wed, 28 Jul 2021 08:48:28 -0400 X-Greylist: delayed 624 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2021 08:48:27 EDT Received: from localhost (80-62-116-241-mobile.dk.customer.tdc.net [80.62.116.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: flokli@flokli.de) by zeus.flokli.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8B8B9115196B; Wed, 28 Jul 2021 12:37:56 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 14:37:55 +0200 From: Florian Klink To: Moritz Fischer Cc: Matthias Schiffer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, gabriel.kh.huang@fii-na.com, moritzf@google.com, stable@vger.kernel.org, Mathias Nyman , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Vinod Koul , Justin Forbes , linux-usb@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "usb: renesas-xhci: Fix handling of unknown ROM state" Message-ID: <20210728123755.md5zvbeeop3shmve@tp.flokli.de> References: <20210719070519.41114-1-mdf@kernel.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-usb@vger.kernel.org On 21-07-21 09:56:27, Moritz Fischer wrote: >On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 05:28:21PM +0200, Matthias Schiffer wrote: >> On 7/19/21 9:05 AM, Moritz Fischer wrote: >> > This reverts commit d143825baf15f204dac60acdf95e428182aa3374. >> > >> > Justin reports some of his systems now fail as result of this commit: >> > >> > xhci_hcd 0000:04:00.0: Direct firmware load for renesas_usb_fw.mem failed with error -2 >> > xhci_hcd 0000:04:00.0: request_firmware failed: -2 >> > xhci_hcd: probe of 0000:04:00.0 failed with error -2 >> > >> > The revert brings back the original issue the commit tried to solve but >> > at least unbreaks existing systems relying on previous behavior. >> > >> > Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org >> > Cc: Mathias Nyman >> > Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman >> > Cc: Vinod Koul >> > Cc: Justin Forbes >> > Reported-by: Justin Forbes >> > Signed-off-by: Moritz Fischer >> > --- >> > >> > Justin, >> > >> > would you be able to help out testing follow up patches to this? >> > >> > I don't have a machine to test your use-case and mine definitly requires >> > a firmware load on RENESAS_ROM_STATUS_NO_RESULT. >> > >> > Thanks >> > - Moritz >> >> >> Hi Moritz, >> >> as an additional data point, here's the behaviour of my system, a Thinkpad >> T14 AMD with: > >Thanks! Other Thinkpad (X13 AMD) user here. > 06:00.0 USB controller: Renesas Technology Corp. uPD720202 USB 3.0 Host Controller (rev 02) When upgrading from 5.13 5.13.2, suddenly the internal webcam, connected via USB (and possibly other peripherals) was gone. It took me some digging until I came to this thread. I see the same firmware load failures: > xhci_hcd 0000:06:00.0: Direct firmware load for renesas_usb_fw.mem failed with error -2 > xhci_hcd 0000:06:00.0: request_firmware failed: -2 > xhci_hcd: probe of 0000:06:00.0 failed with error -2 I can confirm a revert of d143825baf15f204dac60acdf95e428182aa3374 fixes it. >> >> 06:00.0 USB controller [0c03]: Renesas Technology Corp. uPD720202 USB 3.0 >> Host Controller [1912:0015] (rev 02) >> >> - On Kernel 5.13.1, no firmware: USB controller resets in an endless loop >> when the system is running from battery >> - On Kernel 5.13.4, no firmware: USB controller probe fails with the >> mentioned firmware load error >> - On Kernel 5.13.4, with renesas_usb_fw.mem: everything is working fine, the >> reset issue is gone >> >> So it seems to me that requiring a firmware is generally the correct driver >> behaviour for this hardware. The firmware I found in the Arch User >> Repository [1] unfortunately has a very restrictive license... > >Yeah, the chip definitely needs the firmware. It can either initialize >from external ROM or runtime loaded firmware. > >I think the problem really lies in how the current (and reverted) code >detects the need for firmware loading. > >The current code looks at two indicators: >- Is there an external ROM and if so, did somebody try to program the > external ROM and succeed? (renesas_check_rom_state) >- Did somebody try to runtime-load firmware, and if so did they succeed? > (renesas_fw_check_running, after the early return) > >The first one (and resulting early return) does *not* tell you whether >the controller actually has firwmare. That's what breaks my systems. > >The second one is only really useful *if* we also check that FW_DOWNLOAD >was locked. > >Neither of the above captures the case where you actually have an >external ROM that is programmed with proper firmware and caused the chip >to be loaded with said firmware. > >Now before the patch that was reverted, since nobody tried to program >the ROM, it feel through to the "do nothing" in this case -- which >worked since it configured itself from external ROM. > >Now how do we properly determine we do or don't need firwmare? > >Looking at the datasheet I see two options. >- The version register? I need to investigate what that resets to with > an unprogrammed/corrupted ROM. If that reliably gives a detectable value > this could be used as an indicator. > >- The USBSTS register according to the datasheet will report an error > through the HCE bit: > "If both uDP720201 and uDP720202 detect no correct firmware in Serial > ROM, this flag will be set" > >I'll put up an RFC in the next couple of days ... Is the RFC already out somewhere? Regardless of that, maybe we should push the trivial revert to linux-stable first, so users don't run into this unexpectedly. Regards, Florian