From: Bastien Nocera <hadess@hadess.net>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, benjamin.tissoires@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Driver for something that's neither a device nor an interface driver?
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 20:49:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7f25b01ceb1a3aa6bd213599474ceffc34a0054b.camel@hadess.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1909271351260.4732-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
On Fri, 2019-09-27 at 13:56 -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
>
<snip>
> Is there any reason this needs to be done in a kernel driver?
To offer a unified interface all the devices with similar needs.
> Can it
> be handled from userspace instead?
It could, at a great infrastructure cost, trying to get buy-in from
various distributions, at the very least.
> You said this was for a "power supply" class driver. It's not clear
> what that means -- the devices you want to communicate with are
> iphones, ipads, etc., not power supplies.
There's tons of "device" scope "power_supply" devices in the kernel,
which don't power the Linux machine they're running on. Grep for
"POWER_SUPPLY_SCOPE_DEVICE" in the kernel, most wireless mice and
keyboards implement this already.
> Under what circumstances would these messages need to get sent?
User-space would control it by changing the device's
POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_CHARGE_TYPE to "Fast", if available.
eg.
# echo "Fast" > /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-
1/power_supply/apple_mfi_fastcharge/charge_type
> What
> piece of code is responsible for them?
In user-space? Hasn't been decided yet, but I can imagine a policy
daemon that cares about what devices charge from which other device,
and how fast. For example, a laptop in "low power mode" wouldn't want
to fast charge a phone, if the only reason the phone was plugged in was
to fetch some data off of it, for example.
> If necessary, you can modify the core/generic.c driver. However
> that
> might not be the right approach, considering that this is meant only
> for devices manufactured by Apple.
It's also used by at least one Blackberry device, and I can imagine
other vendors having similar "APIs" to work-around USB 1.x charging
current limits.
I take it that by saying "modify core/generic.c" driver you mean that
it's not possible to inherit from it, right?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-09-27 18:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-09-27 17:29 Driver for something that's neither a device nor an interface driver? Bastien Nocera
2019-09-27 17:38 ` Greg KH
2019-09-27 17:44 ` Bastien Nocera
2019-09-27 18:57 ` Greg KH
2019-09-27 19:08 ` Bastien Nocera
2019-09-27 17:56 ` Alan Stern
2019-09-27 18:49 ` Bastien Nocera [this message]
2019-09-27 19:25 ` Greg KH
2019-09-27 20:12 ` Bastien Nocera
2019-09-28 7:39 ` Greg KH
2019-09-28 10:42 ` Bastien Nocera
2019-09-28 12:18 ` Greg KH
2019-09-28 12:37 ` Bastien Nocera
2019-09-28 12:57 ` Greg KH
2019-09-27 20:21 ` Alan Stern
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