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From: Yehezkel Bernat <yehezkelshb@gmail.com>
To: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Mario Limonciello <Mario.Limonciello@dell.com>,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org,
	Andreas Noever <andreas.noever@gmail.com>,
	Michael Jamet <michael.jamet@intel.com>,
	Rajmohan Mani <rajmohan.mani@intel.com>,
	nicholas.johnson-opensource@outlook.com.au,
	Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, stern@rowland.harvard.edu,
	Anthony Wong <anthony.wong@canonical.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 17/22] thunderbolt: Add initial support for USB4
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2019 11:07:34 +0300
Message-ID: <CA+CmpXsMkwZhCegGYPYQo2GwN6ROwDYbY3RVZTEeN+FfZ-PbMQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191004075426.GA2819@lahna.fi.intel.com>

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 10:54 AM Mika Westerberg
<mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 03, 2019 at 02:41:11PM +0000, Mario.Limonciello@dell.com wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 3:00 AM
> > > To: Limonciello, Mario
> > > Cc: yehezkelshb@gmail.com; linux-usb@vger.kernel.org;
> > > andreas.noever@gmail.com; michael.jamet@intel.com;
> > > rajmohan.mani@intel.com; nicholas.johnson-opensource@outlook.com.au;
> > > lukas@wunner.de; gregkh@linuxfoundation.org; stern@rowland.harvard.edu;
> > > anthony.wong@canonical.com; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> > > Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 17/22] thunderbolt: Add initial support for USB4
> > >
> > >
> > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL]
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 02, 2019 at 04:00:55PM +0000, Mario.Limonciello@dell.com wrote:
> > > > > It's not even "same location - another meaning", the vendor ID comes from
> > > the
> > > > > DROM section, so it takes a few internal jumps inside the NVM to find the
> > > > > location. One of the "pointers" or section headers will be broken for sure.
> > > > >
> > > > > And after this, we need to find the NVM in LVFS and it has to pass validation
> > > in
> > > > > a few other locations. The chances are so low that I'd think it isn't worth
> > > > > worrying about it.
> > > >
> > > > And now I remember why the back of my mind was having this thought of
> > > wanting
> > > > sysfs attribute in the first place.  The multiple jumps means that a lot more of
> > > the
> > > > NVM has to be dumped to get that data, which slows down fwupd startup
> > > significantly.
> > >
> > > IIRC currently fwupd does two reads of total 128 bytes from the active
> > > NVM. Is that really slowing down fwupd startup significantly?
> >
> > Yeah, I timed it with fwupd.  Here's the averages:
> >
> > Without doing the reads to jump to this it's 0:00.06 seconds to probe a tree of
> > Host controller and dock plugged in.
> >
> > With doing the reads and just host controller:
> > 0:04.40 seconds
> >
> > With doing the reads and host controller and dock plugged in:
> > 0:10.73 seconds
>
> OK, it clearly takes time to read them. I wonder if this includes
> powering up the controller?
>
> Also if you can get the hw_vendor_id and hw_product_id from the kernel
> does that mean you don't need to do the two reads or you still need
> those?

Are those the chip vendor or the OEM, in case they are different?

Thinking about it again, I'd guess it shouldn't matter much, if the chip is from
Intel, the FW supports NVM upgrade, isn't it?

  reply index

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-01 11:38 [RFC PATCH 00/22] thunderbolt: Add " Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 01/22] thunderbolt: Introduce tb_switch_is_icm() Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 12:10   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-10-01 12:46     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 13:36       ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-10-01 13:48         ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 13:50           ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-10-01 13:52             ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 02/22] thunderbolt: Log switch route string on config read/write timeout Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 03/22] thunderbolt: Log warning if adding switch fails Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 12:18   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-10-01 12:48     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 04/22] thunderbolt: Make tb_sw_write() take const parameter Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 05/22] thunderbolt: Add helper macros to iterate over switch ports Mika Westerberg
2019-10-02 14:17   ` Oliver Neukum
2019-10-02 14:28     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-06 12:15       ` Lukas Wunner
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 06/22] thunderbolt: Add support for lane bonding Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 12:38   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-10-01 12:53     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-02 14:21       ` Oliver Neukum
2019-10-02 14:30         ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-03  8:25           ` Oliver Neukum
2019-10-03  8:53             ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 07/22] thunderbolt: Add default linking between ports if not provided by DROM Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 12:39   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-10-01 13:14     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 08/22] thunderbolt: Add downstream PCIe port mappings for Alpine and Titan Ridge Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 12:40   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-10-01 13:27     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 09/22] thunderbolt: Convert basic adapter register names to follow the USB4 spec Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 12:41   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-10-01 13:28     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 10/22] thunderbolt: Convert PCIe adapter register names to use USB4 names Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 12:42   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 11/22] thunderbolt: Convert DP adapter register names to follow the USB4 spec Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 12:42   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 12/22] thunderbolt: Add Display Port CM handshake for Titan Ridge devices Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 12:44   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-10-01 13:30     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 13/22] thunderbolt: Add Display Port adapter pairing and resource management Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 14/22] thunderbolt: Add bandwidth management for Display Port tunnels Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 15/22] thunderbolt: Make tb_find_port() available to other files Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 16/22] thunderbolt: Call tb_eeprom_get_drom_offset() from tb_eeprom_read_n() Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 17/22] thunderbolt: Add initial support for USB4 Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 12:47   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-10-01 13:09     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 14:53       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-10-01 14:59         ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-10-01 15:13           ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 15:22           ` Greg KH
2019-10-01 15:32             ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 15:07         ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 15:19           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-10-01 15:26             ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 16:27           ` Oliver Neukum
2019-10-02  8:30             ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-02  8:39               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-10-02  8:49                 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 17:05   ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-10-01 18:14     ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-10-02  8:39       ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-02 15:09         ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-10-02 15:36           ` Yehezkel Bernat
2019-10-02 16:00             ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-10-03  8:00               ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-03 14:41                 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-10-04  7:54                   ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-04  8:07                     ` Yehezkel Bernat [this message]
2019-10-04  8:19                       ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-04 11:19                         ` Yehezkel Bernat
2019-10-04 14:05                           ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-10-04 14:19                             ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-10-04 14:21                             ` Mika Westerberg
     [not found]                               ` <1570201357.2.0@kellner.me>
2019-10-04 15:16                                 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-04 15:22                                   ` Christian Kellner
2019-10-02  8:34     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-02 15:04       ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 18/22] thunderbolt: Make tb_switch_find_cap() available to other files Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 19/22] thunderbolt: Add support for Time Management Unit Mika Westerberg
2019-10-02 16:52   ` Mani, Rajmohan
2019-10-03  8:01     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 20/22] thunderbolt: Add support for USB tunnels Mika Westerberg
2019-10-03  8:42   ` Oliver Neukum
2019-10-03  8:52     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 21/22] thunderbolt: Update documentation with the USB4 information Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 14:17   ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-10-01 14:21     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 22/22] thunderbolt: Do not start firmware unless asked by the user Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 14:43   ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-10-01 14:58     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 16:53       ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-10-02  8:48         ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 12:49 ` [RFC PATCH 00/22] thunderbolt: Add support for USB4 Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-10-01 13:42   ` Mika Westerberg

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