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From: Andrey Smirnov <andrew.smirnov@gmail.com>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Ferry Toth <fntoth@gmail.com>,
	Thinh Nguyen <Thinh.Nguyen@synopsys.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"linux-usb@vger.kernel.org" <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Felipe Balbi <balbi@kernel.org>,
	"stable@vger.kernel.org" <stable@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] Revert "usb: dwc3: Don't switch OTG -> peripheral if extcon is present"
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2022 13:17:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHQ1cqHOZr1fBzz=jXTudhw11K-uu4NK9acmeY_URwVxO7MJ7Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y0U1j2LXmGLBYLAV@smile.fi.intel.com>

On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 2:21 AM Andy Shevchenko
<andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 02:40:30PM -0700, Andrey Smirnov wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 12:13 AM Andy Shevchenko
> > <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > > On Sun, Oct 09, 2022 at 10:02:26PM -0700, Andrey Smirnov wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 6:07 AM Ferry Toth <fntoth@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ...
>
> > > > OK, Ferry, I think I'm going to need clarification on specifics on
> > > > your test setup. Can you share your kernel config, maybe your
> > > > "/proc/config.gz", somewhere? When you say you are running vanilla
> > > > Linux, do you mean it or do you mean vanilla tree + some patch delta?
> > > >
> > > > The reason I'm asking is because I'm having a hard time reproducing
> > > > the problem on my end. In fact, when I build v6.0
> > > > (4fe89d07dcc2804c8b562f6c7896a45643d34b2f) and then do a
> > > >
> > > > git revert 8bd6b8c4b100 0f0101719138 (original revert proposed by Andy)
> > > >
> > > > I get an infinite loop of reprobing that looks something like (some
> > > > debug tracing, function name + line number, included):
> > >
> > > Yes, this is (one of) known drawback(s) of deferred probe hack. I think
> > > the kernel that Ferry runs has a patch that basically reverts one from
> > > 2014 [1] and allows to have extcon as a module. (1)
> > >
> > > [1]: 58b116bce136 ("drivercore: deferral race condition fix")
> > >
> > > > which renders the system completely unusable, but USB host is
> > > > definitely going to be broken too. Now, ironically, with my patch
> > > > in-place, an attempt to probe extcon that ends up deferring the probe
> > > > happens before the ULPI driver failure (which wasn't failing driver
> > > > probe prior to https://lore.kernel.org/all/20220213130524.18748-7-hdegoede@redhat.com/),
> > > > there no "driver binding" event that re-triggers deferred probe
> > > > causing the loop, so the system progresses to a point where extcon is
> > > > available and dwc3 driver eventually loads.
> > > >
> > > > After that, and I don't know if I'm doing the same test, USB host
> > > > seems to work as expected. lsusb works, my USB stick enumerates as
> > > > expected. Switching the USB mux to micro-USB and back shuts the host
> > > > functionality down and brings it up as expected. Now I didn't try to
> > > > load any gadgets to make sure USB gadget works 100%, but since you
> > > > were saying it was USB host that was broken, I wasn't concerned with
> > > > that. Am I doing the right test?
> > >
> > > Hmm... What you described above sounds more like a yet another attempt to
> > > workaround (1). _If_ this is the case, we probably can discuss how to fix
> > > it in generic way (somewhere in dd.c, rather than in the certain driver).
> >
> > No, I'm not describing an attempt to fix anything. Just how vanilla
> > v6.0 (where my patch is not reverted) works and where my patch, fixing
> > a logical problem in which extcon was requested too late causing a
> > forced OTG -> "gadget only" switch, also changed the ordering enough
> > to accidentally avoid the loop.
>
> You still refer to a fix, but my question was if it's the same problem or not.
>

No, it's not the same problem.

> > > That said, the real test case should be performed on top of clean kernel
> > > before judging if it's good or bad.
> >
> > Given your level of involvemnt with this particular platform and you
> > being the author of
> > https://github.com/edison-fw/meta-intel-edison/blob/master/meta-intel-edison-bsp/recipes-kernel/linux/files/0043b-TODO-driver-core-Break-infinite-loop-when-deferred-p.patch
> > I assumed/expected you to double check this before sending this revert
> > out. Please do so next time.
>
> As I said I have not yet restored my testing environment for that platform and
> I relied on the Ferry's report. Taking into account the history of breakages
> that done for Intel Merrifield, in particular by not wide tested patches
> against DWC3 driver, I immediately react with a revert.

That's what I'm asking you not to do next time. If you don't have time
to restore your testing env or double check Ferry's work, please live
with a revert in your local tree until you do. My time is as valuable
as yours and this revert required much more investigation before it
was submitted. You lived with
https://github.com/edison-fw/meta-intel-edison/blob/master/meta-intel-edison-bsp/recipes-kernel/linux/files/0043b-TODO-driver-core-Break-infinite-loop-when-deferred-p.patch
since 5.10, which apparently was needed to either boot or have dwc3,
so I don't think there is any real urgency.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-10-11 20:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-27 15:53 [PATCH v2 0/2] usb: dwc3: revert OTG changes for Intel Merrifield Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-27 15:53 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] Revert "USB: fixup for merge issue with "usb: dwc3: Don't switch OTG -> peripheral if extcon is present"" Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-27 15:53 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] Revert "usb: dwc3: Don't switch OTG -> peripheral if extcon is present" Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-29  3:01   ` Andrey Smirnov
2022-09-29  8:47     ` Sven Peter
2022-10-03 21:57   ` Thinh Nguyen
2022-10-04  8:28     ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-10-04 19:14       ` Ferry Toth
2022-10-05  2:12         ` Thinh Nguyen
2022-10-05  2:39           ` Andrey Smirnov
     [not found]             ` <25bc7dbe-f530-298f-f826-087606cf9491@gmail.com>
2022-10-05  8:44               ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-10-05  8:45             ` Ferry Toth
2022-10-06  2:00             ` Thinh Nguyen
     [not found]           ` <2886b82d-a1f6-d288-e8d1-edae54046b4f@gmail.com>
2022-10-06  2:12             ` Thinh Nguyen
2022-10-06 12:28               ` Ferry Toth
2022-10-07  2:11                 ` Thinh Nguyen
2022-10-07 13:07                   ` Ferry Toth
2022-10-10  5:02                     ` Andrey Smirnov
2022-10-10  7:10                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-10-10 21:40                         ` Andrey Smirnov
2022-10-11  9:21                           ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-10-11  9:36                             ` Ferry Toth
2022-10-11 20:17                             ` Andrey Smirnov [this message]
2022-10-12 10:32                               ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-10-12 22:13                                 ` Andrey Smirnov
2022-10-10 11:04                       ` Ferry Toth
2022-10-10 20:52                         ` Ferry Toth
2022-10-10 21:35                           ` Andrey Smirnov
2022-10-11 18:38                             ` Ferry Toth
2022-10-11 20:50                               ` Andrey Smirnov
2022-10-12  9:30                                 ` Ferry Toth
2022-10-12 20:34                                   ` Ferry Toth
2022-10-12 21:43                                   ` Andrey Smirnov
2022-10-13 19:35                                     ` Ferry Toth
2022-10-15 19:54                                       ` Andrey Smirnov
2022-10-16 20:59                                         ` Ferry Toth
2022-10-17 19:44                                           ` Steev Klimaszewski
2022-10-17 21:20                                           ` Andrey Smirnov
2022-10-18 20:47                                             ` Ferry Toth
2022-10-20 19:55                                               ` Ferry Toth
2022-10-17 21:29 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] usb: dwc3: revert OTG changes for Intel Merrifield Andrey Smirnov
2022-10-17 22:20   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] Revert "usb: dwc3: Don't switch OTG -> peripheral if extcon is present" Steev Klimaszewski
2022-10-17 22:22   ` [PATCH v2 0/2] usb: dwc3: revert OTG changes for Intel Merrifield Thinh Nguyen
2022-10-17 23:12     ` Andy Shevchenko

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