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From: Badhri Jagan Sridharan <badhri@google.com>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Cc: Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	USB <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] usb: typec: tcpm: Fix TDA 2.2.1.1 and TDA 2.2.1.2 failures
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 16:21:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPTae5J9qfJzkqykYJyM=FNHb2qdW6CJ2sNJmXCe9hbfE+o0Kw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8a2e77f4-1470-ebf0-402c-df90ab6332bb@roeck-us.net>

Thanks Guenter ! However I don't see a reviewed-by tag :)

On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 1:18 PM Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net> wrote:
>
> On 8/11/20 12:39 PM, Badhri Jagan Sridharan wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 11:45 AM Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 11:24:07AM -0700, Badhri Jagan Sridharan wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 6:51 PM Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 8/10/20 6:11 PM, Badhri Jagan Sridharan wrote:
> >>>>> >From the spec:
> >>>>> "7.1.5 Response to Hard Resets
> >>>>> Hard Reset Signaling indicates a communication failure has occurred and
> >>>>> the Source Shall stop driving VCONN, Shall remove Rp from the VCONN pin
> >>>>> and Shall drive VBUS to vSafe0V as shown in Figure 7-9. The USB connection
> >>>>> May reset during a Hard Reset since the VBUS voltage will be less than
> >>>>> vSafe5V for an extended period of time. After establishing the vSafe0V
> >>>>> voltage condition on VBUS, the Source Shall wait tSrcRecover before
> >>>>> re-applying VCONN and restoring VBUS to vSafe5V. A Source Shall conform
> >>>>> to the VCONN timing as specified in [USB Type-C 1.3]."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Signed-off-by: Badhri Jagan Sridharan <badhri@google.com>
> >>>>> ---
> >>>>>  drivers/usb/typec/tcpm/tcpm.c | 16 +++++++++++++---
> >>>>>  1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> diff --git a/drivers/usb/typec/tcpm/tcpm.c b/drivers/usb/typec/tcpm/tcpm.c
> >>>>> index 3ef37202ee37..e41c4e5d3c71 100644
> >>>>> --- a/drivers/usb/typec/tcpm/tcpm.c
> >>>>> +++ b/drivers/usb/typec/tcpm/tcpm.c
> >>>>> @@ -3372,13 +3372,19 @@ static void run_state_machine(struct tcpm_port *port)
> >>>>>                       tcpm_set_state(port, SNK_HARD_RESET_SINK_OFF, 0);
> >>>>>               break;
> >>>>>       case SRC_HARD_RESET_VBUS_OFF:
> >>>>> -             tcpm_set_vconn(port, true);
> >>>>> +             /*
> >>>>> +              * 7.1.5 Response to Hard Resets
> >>>>> +              * Hard Reset Signaling indicates a communication failure has occurred and the
> >>>>> +              * Source Shall stop driving VCONN, Shall remove Rp from the VCONN pin and Shall
> >>>>> +              * drive VBUS to vSafe0V as shown in Figure 7-9.
> >>>>> +              */
> >>>>> +             tcpm_set_vconn(port, false);
> >>>>>               tcpm_set_vbus(port, false);
> >>>>>               tcpm_set_roles(port, port->self_powered, TYPEC_SOURCE,
> >>>>>                              tcpm_data_role_for_source(port));
> >>>>> -             tcpm_set_state(port, SRC_HARD_RESET_VBUS_ON, PD_T_SRC_RECOVER);
> >>>>
> >>>> I am a bit concerned about this. If I understand correctly, it means that
> >>>> we won't turn VBUS back on unless a SRC_HARD_RESET_VBUS_OFF PD event is received.
> >>>> Is that correct ? What happens if that event is never received ?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Guenter
> >>>
> >>> The term PD event is a little ambiguous to me. Trying to summarize the workflow.
> >>> Lower level tcpc driver would have to call tcpm_vbus_change which
> >>> would in-turn trigger TCPM_VBUS_EVENT
> >>> and queries port->tcpc->get_vbus to get the vbus status. It is not
> >>> really a PD protocol driven event hence the
> >>> confusion.
> >>>
> >>> "What happens if that event is never received ?"
> >>> Yeah TCPM would be in SRC_HARD_RESET_VBUS_OFF till the tcpc calls the
> >>> tcpm_vbus_change.
> >>> Do you suspect that existing tcpc would not have the capability to
> >>> monitor vbus status while sourcing and call tcpm_vbus_change?
> >>>
> >> That, or the driver might be buggy, or the hardware does't signal a status
> >> update, or the update gets lost. I think we should have some backup,
> >> to trigger if the event is not received in a reasonable amout of time.
> >> I don't know if the specification has some kind of maximum limit. If
> >> not, we should still have something
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Guenter
> >
> > Got it ! The specification actually has a bound for vbus off.
> > tSafe0V  - Time to reach vSafe0V max - 650ms. (PD_T_SAFE_0V).
> > So I will bound it to that.
> >
>
> Excellent. Thanks a lot for looking into this!
>
> Guenter
>
> >>From Table 7-12 Sequence Description for a Source Initiated Hard Reset:
> > 4.Policy Engine waits tPSHardReset after sending Hard Reset Signaling
> > and then tells the Device Policy Manager to instruct the power supply
> > to perform a Hard Reset. The transition to vSafe0V Shall occur within
> > tSafe0V (t2).
> > 5 After tSrcRecover the Source applies power to VBUS in an attempt to
> > re-establish communication with the Sink and resume USB Default
> > Operation. The transition to vSafe5V Shall occur within tSrcTurnOn
> > (t4).
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Badhri
> >
> >>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Badhri
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>               break;
> >>>>>       case SRC_HARD_RESET_VBUS_ON:
> >>>>> +             tcpm_set_vconn(port, true);
> >>>>>               tcpm_set_vbus(port, true);
> >>>>>               port->tcpc->set_pd_rx(port->tcpc, true);
> >>>>>               tcpm_set_attached_state(port, true);
> >>>>> @@ -3944,7 +3950,11 @@ static void _tcpm_pd_vbus_off(struct tcpm_port *port)
> >>>>>               tcpm_set_state(port, SNK_HARD_RESET_WAIT_VBUS, 0);
> >>>>>               break;
> >>>>>       case SRC_HARD_RESET_VBUS_OFF:
> >>>>> -             tcpm_set_state(port, SRC_HARD_RESET_VBUS_ON, 0);
> >>>>> +             /*
> >>>>> +              * After establishing the vSafe0V voltage condition on VBUS, the Source Shall wait
> >>>>> +              * tSrcRecover before re-applying VCONN and restoring VBUS to vSafe5V.
> >>>>> +              */
> >>>>> +             tcpm_set_state(port, SRC_HARD_RESET_VBUS_ON, PD_T_SRC_RECOVER);
> >>>>>               break;
> >>>>>       case HARD_RESET_SEND:
> >>>>>               break;
> >>>>>
> >>>>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-11 23:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-11  1:11 [PATCH v1] usb: typec: tcpm: Fix TDA 2.2.1.1 and TDA 2.2.1.2 failures Badhri Jagan Sridharan
2020-08-11  1:51 ` Guenter Roeck
2020-08-11 18:24   ` Badhri Jagan Sridharan
2020-08-11 18:45     ` Guenter Roeck
2020-08-11 19:39       ` Badhri Jagan Sridharan
2020-08-11 20:18         ` Guenter Roeck
2020-08-11 23:21           ` Badhri Jagan Sridharan [this message]
2020-08-12  0:36             ` Guenter Roeck
2020-08-12  1:08               ` Badhri Jagan Sridharan
2020-08-12  1:44                 ` Guenter Roeck
2020-08-12  2:03                   ` Badhri Jagan Sridharan

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