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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: nbd <nbd@nbd.name>, Kalle Valo <kvalo@codeaurora.org>
Subject: Re: converting mac80211 to TXQs entirely
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2017 11:44:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1507283082.19300.6.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878tgps1o7.fsf@toke.dk>

On Thu, 2017-10-05 at 23:52 +0200, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
> 
> > I think that's reasonable. I'm not really sure it's *necessary*
> > though? Couldn't mac80211 return NULL, and then simply call
> > wake_tx_queue again when the TXQ becomes eligible for scheduling
> > again? Otherwise the driver might end up doing a lot of polling for
> > it to become eligible again?
> 
> Theoretically, but then there would have to be some kind of callback
> or another mechanism to figure out when the queue is ready again. The
> neat thing about DRR scheduling is that we just use the fact that
> there was an attempt to schedule the queue as an opportunity to
> increase that queue's deficit by one quantum. This does give a bit of
> "polling overhead" as you say, but it has been hidden in the
> measurement noise in all my tests.

Ok.

> The obvious alternative is to do a token-based airtime scheduler,
> where the airtime used by one station is immediately divided out to
> all active stations. But that requires walking over all active
> stations on every TX completion, and there's a lot of housekeeping to
> make sure we don't accidentally starve everyone. So I'd prefer to
> stick with the DRR scheduler :)

Sure, works for me.

I have no objection to defining a special error code (we can always use
ERR_PTR(-EAGAIN) or something like that, after all) - we just need to
be careful with driver updates.

Given all these discussions, I'd actually like to put a temporary
restriction on merging new drivers with TXQ support - Felix, I think
you were planning to eventually use this for mt7601u? How far along is
that?

johannes

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-06  9:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-05 12:13 converting mac80211 to TXQs entirely Johannes Berg
2017-10-05 15:39 ` Johannes Berg
2017-10-05 16:28   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-10-05 16:43     ` Johannes Berg
2017-10-05 21:52       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-10-06  9:44         ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2017-10-06 10:17           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-10-06 10:18             ` Johannes Berg

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