From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-path: Received: from mail.atheros.com ([12.36.123.2]:45057 "EHLO mail.atheros.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754499Ab0CYVNN (ORCPT ); Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:13:13 -0400 Received: from mail.atheros.com ([10.10.20.108]) by sidewinder.atheros.com for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:13:13 -0700 Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:13:11 -0700 From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" To: Derek Smithies CC: Bruno Randolf , "bob@bobcopeland.com" , "ath5k-devel@lists.ath5k.org" , "linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" , "linville@tuxdriver.com" Subject: Re: [ath5k-devel] [PATCH 00/10] ANI for ath5k Message-ID: <20100325211311.GG7651@tux> References: <20100325054603.10697.48915.stgit@tt-desk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 02:10:55PM -0700, Derek Smithies wrote: > Hi, > On Thu, 25 Mar 2010, Bruno Randolf wrote: > > This is ANI for ath5k. > Fantastic!! > I have used your initial ani patch set here, and it did help througput > etc. > > > > - Improve beacon averaging algorithm for IBSS: Maybe we should keep track of > > the average RSSI on a per-node basis and use the minimum of those in order > > not to loose far away nodes? The other option would be to limit the > > parameters we control similar to AP mode. > > We have talked about this before. I thought that we agreed > that adhoc nodes may > a)be activated at any time > b)be positioned at an unknown distance apart > > it therefore makes no sense to average the RSSI over the current nodes. > If all the current nodes in the network are close by, the ani algorithm > will wind the sensitivity down. Consequently, if a remote node is > started, it will not be able to connect. Yet, the remote node should > have been able to connect as the slot times etc were long enough, > and the link budget is fine... > > So yes, the only way to > > - Improve beacon averaging algorithm for IBSS: > is to turn ani off. which means the issue you raised else where of > providing reasonable userland controls (not via debugfs) becomes > important. If ANI helps IBSS so much then why not just default to turning it off within the driver? Luis