From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99798C433DF for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2020 14:48:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D97208B3 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2020 14:48:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1730806AbgFROsY (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Jun 2020 10:48:24 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:58056 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725982AbgFROsW (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Jun 2020 10:48:22 -0400 Received: from sipsolutions.net (s3.sipsolutions.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:191:4433::2]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD76FC06174E for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2020 07:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sipsolutions.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_SECP256R1__RSA_PSS_RSAE_SHA256__AES_256_GCM:256) (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1jlvq0-007l0e-5k; Thu, 18 Jun 2020 16:48:20 +0200 Message-ID: <6da8757ac90a4d34ed1bdc7c84b40aac06c01af9.camel@sipsolutions.net> Subject: Re: [PATCH] mac80211: Send deauth to STA's upon AP stop From: Johannes Berg To: Shay Bar Cc: "linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2020 16:48:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <20200618093609.16514-1-shay.bar@celeno.com> (sfid-20200618_113627_790574_4007E613) <2a7b33ace030fdeda96e60b2abd6c70a11f426e0.camel@sipsolutions.net> <54236bdd708c53ec2f2a776bb3badcd77c7fecc6.camel@sipsolutions.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.36.3 (3.36.3-1.fc32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 2020-06-18 at 14:45 +0000, Shay Bar wrote: > > So... why would you ever do that? :) > > johannes > > :) > Is it illegal to do "ifconfig down" or kill hostapd > while STA's are still associated? > There are some vendors/users that are doing that. It's not really *illegal* per se, but it would be weird if both did it ... But I do tend to think that if you're using hostapd or such to control it, you shouldn't do another out-of-band control. > Regarding Ben's proposal of using 11k/v, I couldn’t find such > "going down" single frame in the standard (although sounds trivial) Broadcast deauth :) johannes