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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: Kan Yan <kyan@google.com>, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: Rajkumar Manoharan <rmanohar@codeaurora.org>,
	Kevin Hayes <kevinhayes@google.com>,
	Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	Yibo Zhao <yiboz@codeaurora.org>, John Crispin <john@phrozen.org>,
	Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>,
	Felix Fietkau <nbd@nbd.name>
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH v8 0/2] Implement Airtime-based Queue Limit (AQL)
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 11:14:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8736eiam8f.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+iem5uVJFcCYpJfhker-48XPrOf3a+NWr-nKnBtGmLX2yB_Lg@mail.gmail.com>

Kan Yan <kyan@google.com> writes:

>> Those were lovely, thanks!!!! Big win. Since you are on patch v10
>> now.... Any chance you could turn ecn on and off and give it a go
>> again in your next test run?
>>
>>
>> Also:
>>
>> --step-size=.04 --socket-stats # the first is helpful to gain more
>> detail, the second as to the behavior of the tcp stack.
>
> Thanks for the feedback! I will do more tests in a few days.
>
>
>> Secondly - and AFTER this patchset stablizes, I'd like us to look into
>> returning the codel default to 10ms or less
>> from it's currently 20ms or worse setting. Tis another easy test
>
> Smaller CoDel "target" doesn't work well with wireless because the
> dequeue behavior in wireless driver is very bursty. It is quite often
> dequeues dozens of packets in one burst after one large aggregation is
> completed, so smaller CoDel "target" can cause unnecessary packet
> drop.

It would be interesting to get some samples of the actual sojourn time
as seen by CoDel in mac80211. Might be doable with bpftrace...

-Toke


  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-20 10:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-15  1:48 [PATCH v8 0/2] Implement Airtime-based Queue Limit (AQL) Kan Yan
2019-11-15  1:48 ` [v8 PATCH 1/2] mac80211: Import airtime calculation code from mt76 Kan Yan
2019-11-15  1:48 ` [v8 PATCH 2/2] mac80211: Implement Airtime-based Queue Limit (AQL) Kan Yan
2019-11-15 12:56   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-16  2:21     ` Kan Yan
2019-11-15  2:04 ` [PATCH v8 0/2] " Kan Yan
2019-11-15  2:07   ` [Make-wifi-fast] " Dave Taht
     [not found]     ` <CA+iem5s4ZY239Q4=Gwy3WrmVhcdhesirXph6XQoOP5w-nuWcYw@mail.gmail.com>
2019-11-18 21:08       ` Dave Taht
2019-11-20  0:40         ` Kan Yan
2019-11-20 10:14           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2019-11-21  2:05             ` Kan Yan
2019-11-21 10:05               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
     [not found]                 ` <CA+iem5tNz2jjEOVmbh3aPTXLLZfkRjZ60-+bon1vDEJ8D4hQJw@mail.gmail.com>
2019-11-22 10:45                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-26  5:04                     ` Kan Yan
2019-11-26  9:19                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-27  2:13                         ` Dave Taht
2019-12-03 19:02                           ` Kan Yan
2019-12-04  4:47                             ` Kalle Valo
     [not found]                             ` <0101016ecf3bc899-6e391bba-96ed-4495-a7be-1aa8dd8f1bf2-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com>
2019-12-04  8:07                               ` Johannes Berg
2019-12-04 14:34                                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-12-06 19:53                                 ` Dave Taht
2019-12-06 22:04                                   ` Kan Yan

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