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From: Kalle Valo <kalle.valo@iki.fi>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
Cc: linville@tuxdriver.com, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	ipw3945-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Wey-Yi Guy <wey-yi.w.guy@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 16/16] iwlwifi: disable powersave mode
Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 11:25:09 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878whun256.fsf@litku.valot.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1249684912-22936-17-git-send-email-reinette.chatre@intel.com> (Reinette Chatre's message of "Fri\,  7 Aug 2009 15\:41\:52 -0700")

Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com> writes:

> From: Wey-Yi Guy <wey-yi.w.guy@intel.com>
>
> The enabling of powersaving had a big impact on reliability and
> performance. Throughput on n band suffered especially. With power save
> support enabled we see significant ping response times, dropped frames, and
> reduced throughput. These are captured in the following bug reports:
>
> http://bugzilla.intellinuxwireless.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2051
> http://bugzilla.intellinuxwireless.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2053
>
> Disable power save by default, add "iwl_support_ps" module parameter
> that can be used to enable it again.

You are again creating driver specific parameters. But we should be
moving away from this and instead use just generic interfaces. Please,
think three times (or even more) whenever creating new driver specific
interfaces, be it module parameters, sysfs files etc.. It's a
maintenance nightmare and also very confusing for the users. We need to
focus on nl80211 and make it work properly with all drivers.

For the problem at hand, I see two options:

1. Users seeing the problem disable power save either via wext or with
   CONFIG_CFG80211_DEFAULT_PS and everyone else still can use power
   save. The issue will be investigated and fixed. If the AP is buggy,
   there isn't much we can do.

2. If you think the problem is widespread, remove
   IEEE80211_HW_SUPPORTS_PS from the driver, fix the issues and renable
   power save support.

-- 
Kalle Valo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-08  8:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-07 22:41 [PATCH 0/16] iwlwifi driver updates 07/08/2009 Reinette Chatre
2009-08-07 22:41 ` [PATCH 01/16] iwlwifi: re-introduce per device debugging Reinette Chatre
2009-08-07 22:41 ` [PATCH 02/16] iwlwifi: name changed from "fat" to "ht40" Reinette Chatre
2009-08-07 22:41 ` [PATCH 03/16] iwlwifi: new debugging feature for dumping data traffic Reinette Chatre
2009-08-07 22:41 ` [PATCH 04/16] iwlwifi: Traffic type and counter for debugFs Reinette Chatre
2009-08-07 22:41 ` [PATCH 05/16] iwlwifi: tx/rx queue pointer information Reinette Chatre
2009-08-07 22:41 ` [PATCH 06/16] iwlwifi: uCode statistics notification counter Reinette Chatre
2009-08-07 22:41 ` [PATCH 07/16] iwlwifi: Display sensitivity and chain noise information Reinette Chatre
2009-08-07 22:41 ` [PATCH 08/16] iwlwifi: revert uCode Alive notification with timeout Reinette Chatre
2009-08-07 22:41 ` [PATCH 09/16] iwlwifi: fix thermal throttling locking problem Reinette Chatre
2009-08-07 22:41 ` [PATCH 10/16] iwlwifi: fix legacy thermal throttling power index Reinette Chatre
2009-08-07 22:41 ` [PATCH 11/16] iwlwifi: handle the case when set power fail Reinette Chatre
2009-08-07 22:41 ` [PATCH 12/16] iwlwifi: refactor some thermal throttle code Reinette Chatre
2009-08-07 22:41 ` [PATCH 13/16] iwlwifi: fix missing EXPORT_SYMBOL Reinette Chatre
2009-08-07 22:41 ` [PATCH 14/16] iwlwifi: display correct critical temperature infomation Reinette Chatre
2009-08-07 22:41 ` [PATCH 15/16] iwlwifi: automatically adjust sleep level Reinette Chatre
2009-08-07 22:41 ` [PATCH 16/16] iwlwifi: disable powersave mode Reinette Chatre
2009-08-08  8:25   ` Kalle Valo [this message]
2009-08-08 19:36     ` reinette chatre
2009-08-12 18:54       ` Kalle Valo
2009-08-12 21:53         ` reinette chatre
2009-08-14 17:20           ` Kalle Valo

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