From: Arend Van Spriel <arend.vanspriel@broadcom.com>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC V3 04/11] nl80211: add driver api for gscan notifications
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 13:17:52 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9715e731-efcc-0252-ed7b-5ca67e2c0b5b@broadcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1481882578.27953.20.camel@sipsolutions.net>
On 16-12-2016 11:02, Johannes Berg wrote:
>
>> Not sure what is meant by "through the buckets".
>
> TBH, I was handwaving because I don't understand this part of gscan
> well :-)
>
>> Referring to your
>> remark/question in the "Unversal scan proposal" thread:
>>
>> """
>> I'm much more worried about the "bucket reporting" since that doesn't
>> fit into the current full BSS reporting model at all. What's your
>> suggestion for this?
>> """
>>
>> So this is exactly the dilemma I considered so I decided to stick
>> with the full BSS reporting model for gscan as well merely to get it
>> discussed so glad you brought it up ;-).
>
> Heh.
>
> Ok, so I missed that. Somehow I thought hidden in the buckets was a
> partial reporting :-)
>
>> The problem here is that gscan is a vehicle that serves a number of
>> use-cases. So ignoring hotlists, ePNO, etc. the gscan configuration
>> still hold several notification types:
>>
>> - report after completing M scans capturing N best APs or a
>> percentage of (M * N).
>> - report after completing a scan include a specific bucket.
>> - report full scan results.
>>
>> The first two notification trigger retrieval of gscan results which
>> are historic, ie. partial scan results for max M scans.
>>
>> As said earlier the universal scan proposal has some similarities to
>> gscan. Guess you share that as you are using the term "bucket
>> reporting" in that discussion ;-). The historic results are needed
>> for location (if I am not mistaken) so the full BSS reporting model
>> does not fit that. Question is what particular attribute in the
>> historic results is needed for location (suspecting only rssi and
>> possibly the timestamp, but would like to see that confirmed). I was
>> thinking about have historic storage in cfg80211 so we do not need a
>> per-driver solution.
>
> Ok, now I'm starting to understand this better, I guess.
>
> As far as I can tell from our code, for cached results we're reporting
> the following data:
>
> * some flags
> * a scan ID
> * and for each AP:
> * RSSI
> * timestamp
> * channel
> * BSSID
> * SSID (which internally we even have a separate table for and each
> AP just has an index to it, to save memory I guess)
> * beacon period
> * capability field
>
> No IEs and similar things like differentiating probe response/beacon,
> so we can't use the full reporting for this.
>
> I have no problem introducing a common storage for this, if necessary
> with some fields/nl attributes being optional, but I suspect this is
> actually a necessary part of gscan, otherwise you're not able to report
> all the necessary data?
If you just look at the gscan api in wifihal then yes. I was just
wondering whether "all the necessary data" really comprises all these
from a use-case perspective. As an example the api also has rtt fields,
but both brcm and intel solutions do not report that.
Regards,
Arend
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-12-16 12:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-12-12 11:59 [RFC V3 00/11] nl80211: add support for g-scan Arend van Spriel
2016-12-12 11:59 ` [RFC V3 01/11] nl80211: add reporting of gscan capabilities Arend van Spriel
2016-12-13 16:15 ` Johannes Berg
2016-12-13 20:02 ` Arend Van Spriel
2016-12-12 11:59 ` [RFC V3 02/11] nl80211: rename some notification functions Arend van Spriel
2016-12-12 11:59 ` [RFC V3 03/11] nl80211: add support for gscan Arend van Spriel
2016-12-12 17:43 ` Dan Williams
2016-12-12 20:01 ` Arend Van Spriel
2016-12-13 16:19 ` Johannes Berg
2016-12-13 20:09 ` Arend Van Spriel
2016-12-13 22:29 ` Johannes Berg
2016-12-14 9:01 ` Arend Van Spriel
2016-12-16 10:13 ` Johannes Berg
2016-12-16 12:21 ` Arend Van Spriel
2016-12-12 11:59 ` [RFC V3 04/11] nl80211: add driver api for gscan notifications Arend van Spriel
2016-12-13 16:20 ` Johannes Berg
2016-12-14 10:07 ` Arend Van Spriel
2016-12-16 10:02 ` Johannes Berg
2016-12-16 12:17 ` Arend Van Spriel [this message]
2016-12-16 12:36 ` Johannes Berg
2016-12-12 11:59 ` [RFC V3 05/11] brcmfmac: fix memory leak in brcmf_cfg80211_attach() Arend van Spriel
2016-12-12 11:59 ` [RFC V3 06/11] brcmfmac: fix uninitialized field in scheduled scan ssid configuration Arend van Spriel
2016-12-12 11:59 ` [RFC V3 07/11] brcmfmac: add firmware feature detection for gscan feature Arend van Spriel
2016-12-12 11:59 ` [RFC V3 08/11] brcmfmac: report gscan capabilities if firmware supports it Arend van Spriel
2016-12-12 11:59 ` [RFC V3 09/11] brcmfmac: implement gscan functionality Arend van Spriel
2016-12-12 11:59 ` [RFC V3 10/11] brcmfmac: handle gscan events from firmware Arend van Spriel
2016-12-12 11:59 ` [RFC V3 11/11] brcmfmac: allow gscan to run concurrent with scheduled scan Arend van Spriel
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