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From: "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
To: Ben Whitten <Ben.Whitten@lairdtech.com>
Cc: Jian-Hong Pan <starnight@g.ncu.edu.tw>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Alan Cox <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
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	Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 5/6] net: maclorawan: Implement maclorawan class module
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 16:31:34 +0100
Message-ID: <cd61fd58-02c0-8d1e-e194-cec3f0dea65c@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BY1PR02MB1114B352A3A73F8478AE667DE7BF0@BY1PR02MB1114.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Am 20.12.18 um 11:19 schrieb Ben Whitten:
>>>> The hard-MAC implementations will be on my plate mostly, as both SX1276
>>>> and SX1301 need the soft-MAC.
>>>
>>> On the SX1301 side of things, the ability to send messages as a LoRaWAN
>>> node device is a niche use case, the majority if not all people will use the
>>> concentrator card as the pass through gateway to the node.
>>>
>>> In this mode of operation the parameters for transmission such as;
>> frequency,
>>> spreading factor / data rate, power, are given by a remote server and passed
>>> in from the userspace application which received it.
>>> Eventually in the kernel these need to be checked locally to ensure
>> regulatory
>>> compliance.
>>> To that end I have experimented with framing, as CAN does, so that this
>>> metadata can be provided on a write from userspace to the SX1301 driver.
>>>
>>> Sounds like we need different protocols for framing within the protocol
>> family.
>>> Raw in the case of nodes and framed with metadata in the case of
>> concentrator
>>> cards, thoughts?
>>
>> Yes, I have thought the roles of node and gateway.  They may have
>> different skb passing paths.
>> As you mentioned, many things of the gateway is controlled by the
>> remote server.  So, I only implement the path for nodes right now.
>> Maybe, we can have a role flag: node, gateway which can be assigned by
>> some way.  Then, the skb can be decode, checked and passed according
>> to the role flag.  And module also checks the integrity (MIC, length
>> ...) and filter out the bad skb before sends to next stop.
> 
> As IP have IPPROTO_TCP, IPPROTO_UDP, etc maybe we can have
> LORA_PROTO_MODULE, LORA_PROTO_GATEWAY which dictates the
> pathway and skb format.

No, please don't. You were on track with your earlier comment: The user
decides what he wants to do by selecting PF_LORAWAN with
SOCK_DGRAM/_SEQPACKET vs. SOCK_RAW (or PF_PACKET with ETH_P_LORA[WAN]).

The terminology "gateway" has little to do with it. I've heard of packet
forwarders using JSON format for communication with their backend, so it
appears to highly depend on what exactly the gateway wants to do and how
the user wants to access the needed data.

Regards,
Andreas

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Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-23 17:15 [RFC 0/3 net] lorawan: Add LoRaWAN soft MAC module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-08-23 17:15 ` [RFC 1/3 net] lorawan: Add LoRaWAN class module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-08-23 17:43   ` Randy Dunlap
2018-08-24 15:58     ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-09-23 16:40   ` Andreas Färber
2018-09-26 15:52     ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-05 16:55   ` [PATCH V2 0/7] net: lorawan: Add LoRaWAN soft MAC module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-05 16:55   ` [PATCH V2 1/7] net: lorawan: Add macro and definition for LoRaWAN Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-05 16:55   ` [PATCH V2 2/7] net: lorawan: Add LoRaWAN socket module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-05 18:16     ` David Miller
2018-11-06 14:28       ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-14 16:01       ` [PATCH V3 0/7] net: lorawan: Add LoRaWAN soft MAC module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-14 16:01       ` [PATCH V3 1/7] net: lorawan: Add macro and definition for LoRaWAN Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-14 16:12         ` Andreas Färber
2018-11-17  6:47           ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-14 16:01       ` [PATCH V3 2/7] net: lorawan: Add LoRaWAN socket module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-17  4:32         ` David Miller
2018-11-17 14:54           ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-04 14:13             ` [PATCH V4 0/6] net: lorawan: Add LoRaWAN soft MAC module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-04 14:13             ` [PATCH V4 1/6] net: lorawan: Add LoRaWAN socket module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-04 14:13             ` [PATCH V4 2/6] net: lorawan: Add LoRaWAN API declaration for LoRa devices Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-04 14:13             ` [PATCH V4 3/6] net: maclorawan: Add maclorawan module declaration Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-04 14:13             ` [PATCH V4 4/6] net: maclorawan: Implement the crypto of maclorawan module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-04 14:13             ` [PATCH V4 5/6] net: maclorawan: Implement maclorawan class module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-04 20:45               ` Alan Cox
2018-12-09  8:27                 ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-16 10:18                   ` [PATCH v5 0/6] net: lorawan: Add LoRaWAN soft MAC module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-17 13:51                     ` Jiri Pirko
2018-12-16 10:18                   ` [PATCH v5 1/6] net: lorawan: Add LoRaWAN socket module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-29  7:27                     ` Andreas Färber
2019-01-07 14:47                       ` Jian-Hong Pan
2019-01-13 14:51                         ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-16 10:18                   ` [PATCH v5 2/6] net: lorawan: Add LoRaWAN API declaration for LoRa devices Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-16 10:18                   ` [PATCH v5 3/6] net: maclorawan: Add maclorawan module declaration Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-16 10:18                   ` [PATCH v5 4/6] net: maclorawan: Implement the crypto of maclorawan module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-16 10:18                   ` [PATCH v5 5/6] net: maclorawan: Implement maclorawan class module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-17 14:02                     ` Jiri Pirko
2018-12-18 14:27                       ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-18 14:27                         ` Jiri Pirko
2018-12-18 15:34                           ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-18 18:49                         ` Andreas Färber
2018-12-19 11:27                           ` Ben Whitten
2018-12-19 16:26                             ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-20  9:20                               ` Xue Liu
2018-12-20 16:00                                 ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-28  8:11                                   ` Netlink userspace tools for LoRa(WAN), FSK, Sigfox, BLE, etc. (was: [PATCH v5 5/6] net: maclorawan: Implement maclorawan class module) Andreas Färber
2018-12-28 15:49                                     ` Alexander Aring
2018-12-20 10:19                               ` [PATCH v5 5/6] net: maclorawan: Implement maclorawan class module Ben Whitten
2018-12-20 15:31                                 ` Andreas Färber [this message]
2018-12-16 10:19                   ` [PATCH v5 6/6] net: lorawan: List LORAWAN in menuconfig Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-17  8:50                     ` Xue Liu
2018-12-17 14:19                       ` Andreas Färber
2018-12-18 13:50                         ` Xue Liu
2018-12-24 15:32                           ` Alexander Aring
2018-12-28  4:57                             ` Andreas Färber
2018-12-28 15:43                               ` Alexander Aring
2018-12-29  6:28                                 ` Andreas Färber
2018-12-04 14:13             ` [PATCH V4 " Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-14 16:01       ` [PATCH V3 3/7] net: lorawan: Add LoRaWAN API declaration for LoRa devices Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-14 16:01       ` [PATCH V3 4/7] net: maclorawan: Add maclorawan module declaration Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-17  4:32         ` David Miller
2018-11-17  6:32           ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-14 16:01       ` [PATCH V3 5/7] net: maclorawan: Implement the crypto of maclorawan module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-14 16:01       ` [PATCH V3 6/7] net: maclorawan: Implement maclorawan class module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-14 16:01       ` [PATCH V3 7/7] net: lorawan: List LORAWAN in menuconfig Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-05 16:55   ` [PATCH V2 3/7] net: lorawan: Add LoRaWAN API declaration for LoRa devices Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-05 16:55   ` [PATCH V2 4/7] net: maclorawan: Add maclorawan module declaration Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-05 16:55   ` [PATCH V2 5/7] net: maclorawan: Implement the crypto of maclorawan module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-05 16:55   ` [PATCH V2 6/7] net: maclorawan: Implement maclorawan class module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-05 16:55   ` [PATCH V2 7/7] net: lorawan: List LORAWAN in menuconfig Jian-Hong Pan
2018-08-23 17:15 ` [RFC 2/3 net] lorawan: Add macro and definition for LoRaWAN class modlue Jian-Hong Pan
2018-09-23 16:06   ` Andreas Färber
2018-09-26 14:46     ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-08-23 17:15 ` [RFC 3/3 net] lorawan: List LORAWAN in menuconfig Jian-Hong Pan

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