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From: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, hch@lst.de, adilger@dilger.ca,
	jaegeuk@kernel.org, miklos@szeredi.hu, rpeterso@redhat.com,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/9] fibmap: Use bmap instead of ->bmap method in ioctl_fibmap
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2019 22:41:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190806224138.GW30113@42.do-not-panic.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190805151258.GD7129@magnolia>

On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 08:12:58AM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 12:27:30PM +0200, Carlos Maiolino wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 08:14:00AM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 11:19:39AM +0200, Carlos Maiolino wrote:
> > > > Hi Darrick.
> > > > 
> > > > > > +		return error;
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +	block = ur_block;
> > > > > > +	error = bmap(inode, &block);
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +	if (error)
> > > > > > +		ur_block = 0;
> > > > > > +	else
> > > > > > +		ur_block = block;
> > > > > 
> > > > > What happens if ur_block > INT_MAX?  Shouldn't we return zero (i.e.
> > > > > error) instead of truncating the value?  Maybe the code does this
> > > > > somewhere else?  Here seemed like the obvious place for an overflow
> > > > > check as we go from sector_t to int.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The behavior should still be the same. It will get truncated, unfortunately. I
> > > > don't think we can actually change this behavior and return zero instead of
> > > > truncating it.
> > > 
> > > But that's even worse, because the programs that rely on FIBMAP will now
> > > receive *incorrect* results that may point at a different file and
> > > definitely do not point at the correct file block.
> > 
> > How is this worse? This is exactly what happens today, on the original FIBMAP
> > implementation.
> 
> Ok, I wasn't being 110% careful with my words.  Delete "will now" from
> the sentence above.
> 
> > Maybe I am not seeing something or having a different thinking you have, but
> > this is the behavior we have now, without my patches. And we can't really change
> > it; the user view of this implementation.
> > That's why I didn't try to change the result, so the truncation still happens.
> 
> I understand that we're not generally supposed to change existing
> userspace interfaces, but the fact remains that allowing truncated
> responses causes *filesystem corruption*.
> 
> We know that the most well known FIBMAP callers are bootloaders, and we
> know what they do with the information they get -- they use it to record
> the block map of boot files.  So if the IPL/grub/whatever installer
> queries the boot file and the boot file is at block 12345678901 (a
> 34-bit number), this interface truncates that to 3755744309 (a 32-bit
> number) and that's where the bootloader will think its boot files are.
> The installation succeeds, the user reboots and *kaboom* the system no
> longer boots because the contents of block 3755744309 is not a bootloader.
> 
> Worse yet, grub1 used FIBMAP data to record the location of the grub
> environment file and installed itself between the MBR and the start of
> partition 1.  If the environment file is at offset 1234578901, grub will
> write status data to its environment file (which it thinks is at
> 3755744309) and *KABOOM* we've just destroyed whatever was in that
> block.
> 
> Far better for the bootloader installation script to hit an error and
> force the admin to deal with the situation than for the system to become
> unbootable.  That's *why* the (newer) iomap bmap implementation does not
> return truncated mappings, even though the classic implementation does.
> 
> The classic code returning truncated results is a broken behavior.

How long as it been broken for? And if we do fix it, I'd just like for
a nice commit lot describing potential risks of not applying it. *If*
the issue exists as-is today, the above contains a lot of information
for addressing potential issues, even if theoretical.

  Luis

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-08-06 22:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-31 14:12 [PATCH 0/9 V4] New ->fiemap infrastructure and ->bmap removal Carlos Maiolino
2019-07-31 14:12 ` [PATCH 1/9] fs: Enable bmap() function to properly return errors Carlos Maiolino
2019-07-31 14:12 ` [PATCH 2/9] cachefiles: drop direct usage of ->bmap method Carlos Maiolino
2019-07-31 14:12 ` [PATCH 3/9] ecryptfs: drop direct calls to ->bmap Carlos Maiolino
2019-07-31 14:12 ` [PATCH 4/9] fibmap: Use bmap instead of ->bmap method in ioctl_fibmap Carlos Maiolino
2019-07-31 23:12   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-08-02  9:19     ` Carlos Maiolino
2019-08-02 15:14       ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-08-05 10:27         ` Carlos Maiolino
2019-08-05 15:12           ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-08-06  5:38             ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-06 12:07               ` Carlos Maiolino
2019-08-06 14:48                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-08-08  7:17                   ` Carlos Maiolino
2019-08-06 12:02             ` Carlos Maiolino
2019-08-06 22:41             ` Luis Chamberlain [this message]
2019-08-07 14:42               ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-08-08  7:12               ` Carlos Maiolino
2019-08-08 18:53                 ` Andreas Dilger
2019-08-19 10:10                   ` Carlos Maiolino
2019-07-31 14:12 ` [PATCH 5/9] fs: Move start and length fiemap fields into fiemap_extent_info Carlos Maiolino
2019-07-31 23:28   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-08-02  9:51     ` Carlos Maiolino
2019-08-02 15:15       ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-08-05  9:40         ` Carlos Maiolino
2019-08-06  5:39       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-07-31 14:12 ` [PATCH 6/9] iomap: Remove length and start fields from iomap_fiemap Carlos Maiolino
2019-07-31 23:24   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-07-31 14:12 ` [PATCH 7/9] fiemap: Use a callback to fill fiemap extents Carlos Maiolino
2019-07-31 23:26   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-07-31 14:12 ` [PATCH 8/9] Use FIEMAP for FIBMAP calls Carlos Maiolino
2019-07-31 14:12   ` Carlos Maiolino
2019-07-31 23:22   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-07-31 23:31     ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-08-02 13:52       ` Carlos Maiolino
2019-08-06  5:41       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-02 13:48     ` Carlos Maiolino
2019-08-02 15:29       ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-08-05 10:38         ` Carlos Maiolino
2019-08-06  5:46         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-07-31 14:12 ` [PATCH 9/9] xfs: Get rid of ->bmap Carlos Maiolino
2019-07-31 23:30   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-08-02 10:20 ` [PATCH 0/9 V4] New ->fiemap infrastructure and ->bmap removal Carlos Maiolino
2019-08-08  8:27 [PATCH 0/9 V5] " Carlos Maiolino
2019-08-08  8:27 ` [PATCH 4/9] fibmap: Use bmap instead of ->bmap method in ioctl_fibmap Carlos Maiolino
2019-08-08 20:38   ` kbuild test robot
2019-08-14 11:01     ` Carlos Maiolino
2019-08-14 11:08       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-09-11 13:43 [PATCH 0/9 V6] New ->fiemap infrastructure and ->bmap removal Carlos Maiolino
2019-09-11 13:43 ` [PATCH 4/9] fibmap: Use bmap instead of ->bmap method in ioctl_fibmap Carlos Maiolino

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