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From: Carlos Maiolino <cmaiolino@redhat.com>
To: Gionatan Danti <g.danti@assyoma.it>
Cc: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: XFS reflink vs ThinLVM
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 12:43:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200113114356.midcgudwxpze3xfw@orion> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <703a6c17-cc02-2c2c-31ce-6cd12a888743@assyoma.it>

Hi Gionatan.

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 12:25:26PM +0100, Gionatan Danti wrote:
> On 13/01/20 12:10, Carlos Maiolino wrote:
> > First of all, I think there is no 'right' answer, but instead, use what best fit
> > you and your environment. As you mentioned, there are PROs and CONS for each
> > different solution.
> > 
> > I use XFS reflink to CoW my Virtual Machines I use for testing. As I know many
> > others do the same, and it works very well, but as you said. It is file-based
> > disk images, opposed to volume-based disk images, used by DM and LVM.man.
> > 
> > About your concern regarding fragmentation... The granularity is not really 4k,
> > as it really depends on the extent sizes. Well, yes, the fundamental granularity
> > is block size, but we basically never allocate a single block...
> > 
> > Also, you can control it by using extent size hints, which will help reduce the
> > fragmentation you are concerned about.
> > Check 'extsize' and 'cowextsize' arguments for mkfs.xfs and xfs_io.
> 
> Hi Carlos, thank you for pointing me to the "cowextsize" option. From what I
> can read, it default to 32 blocks x 4 KB = 128 KB, which is a very
> reasonable granularity for CoW space/fragmentation tradeoff.
> 
> On the other hand, "extsize" seems to apply only to realtime filesystem
> section (which I don't plan to use), right?

I should have mentioned it, my apologies.

'extsize' argument for mkfs.xfs will set the size of the blocks in the RT
section.

Although, the 'extsize' command in xfs_io, will set the extent size hints on any
file of any xfs filesystem (or filesystem supporting FS_IOC_FSSETXATTR).

Notice you can use xfs_io extsize to set the extent size hint to a directory,
and all files under the directory will inherit the same extent hint.

Cheers.

> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -- 
> Danti Gionatan
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> 

-- 
Carlos


  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-13 11:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-13 10:22 XFS reflink vs ThinLVM Gionatan Danti
2020-01-13 11:10 ` Carlos Maiolino
2020-01-13 11:25   ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-13 11:43     ` Carlos Maiolino [this message]
2020-01-13 12:21       ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-13 15:34         ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-13 16:53           ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-01-13 17:00             ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-13 18:09               ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-01-14  8:45                 ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-15 11:37                   ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-15 16:39                     ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-01-15 17:45                       ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-17 21:58                         ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-17 23:42                           ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-01-18 11:08                             ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-18 23:06                               ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-01-19  8:45                                 ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-13 16:14 ` Chris Murphy
2020-01-13 16:25   ` Gionatan Danti

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