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From: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/11] xfs: deferred inode inactivation
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 08:49:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210317154904.GE22097@magnolia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210317152125.GA384335@infradead.org>

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 03:21:25PM +0000, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 08:47:29AM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 07:27:10AM +0000, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > Still digesting this.  What trips me off a bit is the huge amount of
> > > duplication vs the inode reclaim mechanism.  Did you look into sharing
> > > more code there and if yes what speaks against that?
> > 
> > TBH I didn't look /too/ hard because once upon a time[1] Dave was aiming
> > to replace the inode reclaim tagging and iteration with an lru list walk
> > so I decided not to entangle the two.
> > 
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-xfs/20191009032124.10541-23-david@fromorbit.com/
> 
> Well, it isn't just the radix tree tagging, but mostly the
> infrastructure in iget that seems duplicates a lot of very delicate
> code.
> 
> For the actual inactivation run:  why don't we queue up the inodes
> for deactivation directly that, that use the work_struct in the
> inode to directly queue up the inode to the workqueue and let the
> workqueue manage the details?  That also means we can piggy back on
> flush_work and flush_workqueue to force one or more entries out.
> 
> Again I'm not saying I know this is better, but this is something that
> comes to my mind when reading the code.

Hmm.  You mean reuse i_ioend_work (which maybe we should just rename to
i_work) and queueing the inodes directly into the workqueue?  I suppose
that would mean we don't even need the radix tree tag + inode walk...

I hadn't thought about reusing i_ioend_work, since this patchset
predates the writeback ioend chaining.  The biggest downside that I can
think of doing it that way is that right after a rm -rf, the unbound gc
workqueue will start hundreds of kworkers to deal with the sudden burst
of queued work, but all those workers will end up fighting each other
for (a) log grant space, and after that (b) the AGI buffer locks, and
meanwhile everything else on the frontend stalls on the log.

The other side benefit I can think of w.r.t. keeping the inactivation
work as a per-AG item is that (at least among AGs) we can walk the
inodes in disk order, which probably results in less seeking (note: I
haven't studied this) and might allow us to free inode cluster buffers
sooner in the rm -rf case.

<shrug> Thoughts?

--D

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-17 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-11  3:05 [PATCHSET v3 00/11] xfs: deferred inode inactivation Darrick J. Wong
2021-03-11  3:05 ` [PATCH 01/11] xfs: prevent metadata files from being inactivated Darrick J. Wong
2021-03-11 13:05   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-22 23:13   ` Dave Chinner
2021-03-11  3:05 ` [PATCH 02/11] xfs: refactor the predicate part of xfs_free_eofblocks Darrick J. Wong
2021-03-11 13:09   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-15 18:46   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18  4:33     ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-03-19  1:48       ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-03-11  3:05 ` [PATCH 03/11] xfs: don't reclaim dquots with incore reservations Darrick J. Wong
2021-03-15 18:29   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-22 23:31   ` Dave Chinner
2021-03-23  0:01     ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-03-23  1:48       ` Dave Chinner
2021-03-11  3:06 ` [PATCH 04/11] xfs: decide if inode needs inactivation Darrick J. Wong
2021-03-15 18:47   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-15 19:06     ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-03-11  3:06 ` [PATCH 05/11] xfs: rename the blockgc workqueue Darrick J. Wong
2021-03-15 18:49   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-11  3:06 ` [PATCH 06/11] xfs: deferred inode inactivation Darrick J. Wong
2021-03-16  7:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-16 15:47     ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-03-17 15:21       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-17 15:49         ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2021-03-22 23:46           ` Dave Chinner
2021-03-22 23:37       ` Dave Chinner
2021-03-23  0:24         ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-03-23  1:44   ` Dave Chinner
2021-03-23  4:00     ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-03-23  5:19       ` Dave Chinner
2021-03-24  2:04         ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-03-24  4:57           ` Dave Chinner
2021-03-25  4:20             ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-03-24 17:53       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-25  4:26         ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-03-11  3:06 ` [PATCH 07/11] xfs: expose sysfs knob to control inode inactivation delay Darrick J. Wong
2021-03-11  3:06 ` [PATCH 08/11] xfs: force inode inactivation and retry fs writes when there isn't space Darrick J. Wong
2021-03-15 18:54   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-15 19:06     ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-03-11  3:06 ` [PATCH 09/11] xfs: force inode garbage collection before fallocate when space is low Darrick J. Wong
2021-03-11  3:06 ` [PATCH 10/11] xfs: parallelize inode inactivation Darrick J. Wong
2021-03-15 18:55   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-15 19:03     ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-03-23 22:21   ` Dave Chinner
2021-03-24  3:52     ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-03-11  3:06 ` [PATCH 11/11] xfs: create a polled function to force " Darrick J. Wong
2021-03-23 22:31   ` Dave Chinner
2021-03-24  3:34     ` Darrick J. Wong

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