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From: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: Catherine Hoang <catherine.hoang@oracle.com>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/4] xfs: implement custom freeze/thaw functions
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2023 22:16:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230316051653.GG11394@frogsfrogsfrogs> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOQ4uxgeHcSOnZxKV4rGXa_gj4-hwicu7=VVvofrQGwcDSdt0w@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 08:00:21AM +0200, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 7:25 AM Darrick J. Wong <djwong@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 07:11:56AM +0200, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> > > On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 6:25 AM Catherine Hoang
> > > <catherine.hoang@oracle.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Implement internal freeze/thaw functions and prevent other threads from changing
> > > > the freeze level by adding a new SB_FREEZE_ECLUSIVE level. This is required to
> > >
> > > This looks troubling in several ways:
> > > - Layering violation
> > > - Duplication of subtle vfs code
> > >
> > > > prevent concurrent transactions while we are updating the uuid.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Wouldn't it be easier to hold s_umount while updating the uuid?
> >
> > Why?  Userspace holds an open file descriptor, the fs won't get
> > unmounted.
> 
> "Implement internal freeze/thaw functions and prevent other threads
> from changing
> the freeze level..."
> 
> holding s_umount prevents changing freeze levels.
> 
> The special thing about the frozen state is that userspace is allowed
> to leave the fs frozen without holding any open fd, but because there
> is no such requirement from SET_FSUUID I don't understand the need
> for a new freeze level.

Hm.  I think you could be right, since we can certainly run transactions
with s_umount held.  I wonder if we're going to run into problems with
the weird xlog things that fsuuid setting will want, but I guess we have
lockdep on our side, right? ;)

--D

> Thanks,
> Amir.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-16  5:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-14  4:21 [PATCH v1 0/4] setting uuid of online filesystems Catherine Hoang
2023-03-14  4:21 ` [PATCH v1 1/4] xfs: refactor xfs_uuid_mount and xfs_uuid_unmount Catherine Hoang
2023-03-14  4:21 ` [PATCH v1 2/4] xfs: implement custom freeze/thaw functions Catherine Hoang
2023-03-14  5:11   ` Amir Goldstein
2023-03-14  5:25     ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-03-14  6:00       ` Amir Goldstein
2023-03-16  5:16         ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2023-03-14  4:21 ` [PATCH v1 3/4] xfs: add XFS_IOC_SETFSUUID ioctl Catherine Hoang
2023-03-14  5:50   ` Amir Goldstein
2023-03-15 23:12     ` Catherine Hoang
2023-03-16  8:09       ` Amir Goldstein
2023-03-18  0:39         ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-03-18  9:31           ` Amir Goldstein
2023-03-14  4:21 ` [PATCH v1 4/4] xfs: export meta uuid via xfs_fsop_geom Catherine Hoang
2023-03-14  6:28 ` [PATCH v1 0/4] setting uuid of online filesystems Dave Chinner
2023-03-16 20:41   ` Catherine Hoang
2023-03-19  0:16     ` Dave Chinner
2023-03-28  1:38       ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-03-18  0:11   ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-03-18  9:04     ` Amir Goldstein

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