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From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>
To: Chandan Babu R <chandan.babu@oracle.com>, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>,
	david@fromorbit.com, djwong@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 1/5] xfsprogs: introduce liburcu support
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2021 16:51:32 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41a4a5e6-c58e-97e7-666b-d1205ed0604f@sandeen.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210924140912.201481-2-chandan.babu@oracle.com>

On 9/24/21 9:09 AM, Chandan Babu R wrote:
> From: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
> 
> The upcoming buffer cache rework/kerenl sync-up requires atomic
> variables. I could use C++11 atomics build into GCC, but they are a
> pain to work with and shoe-horn into the kernel atomic variable API.
> 
> Much easier is to introduce a dependency on liburcu - the userspace
> RCU library. This provides atomic variables that very closely match
> the kernel atomic variable API, and it provides a very similar
> memory model and memory barrier support to the kernel. And we get
> RCU support that has an identical interface to the kernel and works
> the same way.
> 
> Hence kernel code written with RCU algorithms and atomic variables
> will just slot straight into the userspace xfsprogs code without us
> having to think about whether the lockless algorithms will work in
> userspace or not. This reduces glue and hoop jumping, and gets us
> a step closer to having the entire userspace libxfs code MT safe.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
> [chandan.babu@oracle.com: Add m4 macros to detect availability of liburcu]

Thanks for fixing that up. I had tried to use rcu_init like Dave originally
had, and I like that better in general, but I had trouble with it - I guess
maybe it gets redefined based on memory model magic and the actual symbol
"rcu_init" maybe isn't available? I didn't dig very much.

Also, dumb question from me - how do we know where we need the
rcu_[un]register_thread() calls? Will it be obvious if we miss it
in the future?  "each thread must invoke this function before its
first call to rcu_read_lock() or call_rcu()."

Thanks,
-Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-24 21:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-24 14:09 [PATCH V2 0/5] xfsprogs: generic serialisation primitives Chandan Babu R
2021-09-24 14:09 ` [PATCH V2 1/5] xfsprogs: introduce liburcu support Chandan Babu R
2021-09-24 21:51   ` Eric Sandeen [this message]
2021-09-25 10:24     ` Chandan Babu R
2021-09-25 23:05     ` Dave Chinner
2021-09-27 18:48       ` Eric Sandeen
2021-09-29 20:46   ` Eric Sandeen
2021-09-24 14:09 ` [PATCH V2 2/5] libxfs: add spinlock_t wrapper Chandan Babu R
2021-09-24 22:06   ` Eric Sandeen
2021-09-24 14:09 ` [PATCH V2 3/5] atomic: convert to uatomic Chandan Babu R
2021-09-24 22:13   ` Eric Sandeen
2021-09-25 10:26     ` Chandan Babu R
2021-09-25 23:15     ` Dave Chinner
2021-09-25 23:18       ` Eric Sandeen
2021-09-25 23:49         ` Dave Chinner
2021-09-24 14:09 ` [PATCH V2 4/5] libxfs: add kernel-compatible completion API Chandan Babu R
2021-09-24 23:02   ` Eric Sandeen
2021-09-25 10:29     ` Chandan Babu R
2021-09-27 20:33       ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-09-27 20:55       ` Dave Chinner
2021-09-24 14:09 ` [PATCH V2 5/5] libxfs: add wrappers for kernel semaphores Chandan Babu R

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