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From: Filipe Manana <fdmanana@kernel.org>
To: Zygo Blaxell <ce3g8jdj@umail.furryterror.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	xfs <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	Filipe Manana <fdmanana@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Btrfs: make deduplication with range including the last block work
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 11:42:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAL3q7H58avTiOiTOuzTt-q3L0i5d9G10e+4j9f0RTps+bOH+1w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200107181630.GB24056@hungrycats.org>

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 6:16 PM Zygo Blaxell
<ce3g8jdj@umail.furryterror.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 07, 2020 at 04:18:42PM +0000, Filipe Manana wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 5:22 AM Zygo Blaxell
> > <ce3g8jdj@umail.furryterror.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 06:26:56PM +0000, fdmanana@kernel.org wrote:
> > > > From: Filipe Manana <fdmanana@suse.com>
> > > >
> > > > Since btrfs was migrated to use the generic VFS helpers for clone and
> > > > deduplication, it stopped allowing for the last block of a file to be
> > > > deduplicated when the source file size is not sector size aligned (when
> > > > eof is somewhere in the middle of the last block). There are two reasons
> > > > for that:
> > > >
> > > > 1) The generic code always rounds down, to a multiple of the block size,
> > > >    the range's length for deduplications. This means we end up never
> > > >    deduplicating the last block when the eof is not block size aligned,
> > > >    even for the safe case where the destination range's end offset matches
> > > >    the destination file's size. That rounding down operation is done at
> > > >    generic_remap_check_len();
> > > >
> > > > 2) Because of that, the btrfs specific code does not expect anymore any
> > > >    non-aligned range length's for deduplication and therefore does not
> > > >    work if such nona-aligned length is given.
> > > >
> > > > This patch addresses that second part, and it depends on a patch that
> > > > fixes generic_remap_check_len(), in the VFS, which was submitted ealier
> > > > and has the following subject:
> > > >
> > > >   "fs: allow deduplication of eof block into the end of the destination file"
> > > >
> > > > These two patches address reports from users that started seeing lower
> > > > deduplication rates due to the last block never being deduplicated when
> > > > the file size is not aligned to the filesystem's block size.
> > > >
> > > > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-btrfs/2019-1576167349.500456@svIo.N5dq.dFFD/
> > > > Signed-off-by: Filipe Manana <fdmanana@suse.com>
> > >
> > > Should these patches be marked for stable (5.0+, but see below for
> > > caveats about 5.0)?  The bug affects 5.3 and 5.4 which are still active,
> > > and dedupe is an important feature for some users.
> >
> > Usually I only mark things for stable that are critical: corruptions,
> > crashes and memory leaks for example.
> > I don't think this is a critical issue, since none of those things
> > happen. It's certainly inconvenient to not have
> > an extent fully deduplicated, but it's just that.
>
> In btrfs the reference counting is done by extent and extents are
> immutable, so extents are either fully deduplicated, or not deduplicated
> at all.  We have to dedupe every part of an extent, and if we fail to
> do so, no data space is saved while metadata usage increases for the
> new partial extent reference.

Yes, I know. That was explained in the cover letter, why allowing
deduplication of the eof block is more important for btrfs than it is
for xfs for example.

>
> This bug means the dedupe feature is not usable _at all_ for single-extent
> files with non-aligned EOF, and that is a significant problem for users
> that rely on dedupe to manage space usage on btrfs (e.g. for build
> servers where there are millions of duplicate odd-sized small files, and
> the space savings from working dedupe can be 90% or more).  Doubling or
> tripling space usage for the same data is beyond inconvenience.

Sure, I understand that, I know how btrfs manages extents and I'm well
familiar with its cloning/deduplication implementation.

Still, it's not something I consider critical enough to get to stable,
as there's no corruption, data loss or a crash.
That doesn't mean the patches aren't going to stable branches, that
depends on the maintainers of each subsystem (vfs, btrfs).

Thanks.

>
> It is possible to work around the bug in userspace and recover the space
> with clone, but there is no way to do it safely on live data without a
> working dedupe-range ioctl.
>
> > If a maintainer wants to add it for stable, I'm fine with it.
>
> At this point it would only affect 5.4--all the other short-term kernels
> are closed, and none of the LTS kernels need the patch--but it would be
> nice if 5.4 had working dedupe.
>
> > >
> > > > ---
> > > >  fs/btrfs/ioctl.c | 3 ++-
> > > >  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/fs/btrfs/ioctl.c b/fs/btrfs/ioctl.c
> > > > index 3418decb9e61..c41c276ff272 100644
> > > > --- a/fs/btrfs/ioctl.c
> > > > +++ b/fs/btrfs/ioctl.c
> > > > @@ -3237,6 +3237,7 @@ static void btrfs_double_extent_lock(struct inode *inode1, u64 loff1,
> > > >  static int btrfs_extent_same_range(struct inode *src, u64 loff, u64 len,
> > > >                                  struct inode *dst, u64 dst_loff)
> > > >  {
> > > > +     const u64 bs = BTRFS_I(src)->root->fs_info->sb->s_blocksize;
> > > >       int ret;
> > > >
> > > >       /*
> > > > @@ -3244,7 +3245,7 @@ static int btrfs_extent_same_range(struct inode *src, u64 loff, u64 len,
> > > >        * source range to serialize with relocation.
> > > >        */
> > > >       btrfs_double_extent_lock(src, loff, dst, dst_loff, len);
> > > > -     ret = btrfs_clone(src, dst, loff, len, len, dst_loff, 1);
> > > > +     ret = btrfs_clone(src, dst, loff, len, ALIGN(len, bs), dst_loff, 1);
> > >
> > > A heads-up for anyone backporting this to 5.0:  this patch depends on
> > >
> > >         57a50e2506df Btrfs: remove no longer needed range length checks for deduplication
> >
> > For any kernel without that cleanup patch, backporting the first patch
> > in the series (the one touching only fs/read_write.c) is enough.
> > For any kernel with that cleanup patch, then both patches in the
> > series are needed.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > >
> > > Simply resolving the git conflict without including 57a50e2506df produces
> > > a kernel where dedupe rounds the size of the dst file up to the next
> > > block boundary.  This is because 57a50e2506df changes the value of
> > > "len".  Before 57a50e2506df, "len" is equivalent to "ALIGN(len, bs)"
> > > at the btrfs_clone line; after 57a50e2506df, "len" is the unaligned
> > > dedupe request length passed to the btrfs_extent_same_range function.
> > > This changes the semantics of the btrfs_clone line significantly.
> > >
> > > 57a50e2506df is in 5.1, so 5.1+ kernels do not require any additional
> > > patches.
> > >
> > > 4.20 and earlier don't have the bug, so don't need a fix.
> > >
> > > >       btrfs_double_extent_unlock(src, loff, dst, dst_loff, len);
> > > >
> > > >       return ret;
> > > > --
> > > > 2.11.0
> > > >
> >

  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-08 11:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-16 18:26 [PATCH 0/2] Allow deduplication of the eof block when it is safe to do so fdmanana
2019-12-16 18:26 ` [PATCH 1/2] fs: allow deduplication of eof block into the end of the destination file fdmanana
2019-12-17 15:52   ` Josef Bacik
2020-01-07 16:23   ` Filipe Manana
2020-01-07 17:57     ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-01-08 11:36       ` Filipe Manana
2020-01-08 16:15         ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-01-09 19:00           ` Filipe Manana
2020-01-09 19:12             ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-01-14 14:36               ` Filipe Manana
2020-01-22  0:35                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-01-22 12:38                   ` David Sterba
2019-12-16 18:26 ` [PATCH 2/2] Btrfs: make deduplication with range including the last block work fdmanana
2019-12-17 15:54   ` Josef Bacik
2019-12-29  5:22   ` Zygo Blaxell
2020-01-07 16:18     ` Filipe Manana
2020-01-07 18:16       ` Zygo Blaxell
2020-01-08 11:42         ` Filipe Manana [this message]
2020-01-08 14:53           ` David Sterba
2020-01-23 17:37 ` [PATCH 0/2] Allow deduplication of the eof block when it is safe to do so David Sterba

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