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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@au1.ibm.com>
To: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, paulus@samba.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -V10 00/15] THP support for PPC64
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 12:00:07 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1371348007.21896.62.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1370446119-8837-1-git-send-email-aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Wed, 2013-06-05 at 20:58 +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
> This is the second patchset needed to support THP on ppc64. Some of
> the changes
> included in this series are tricky in that it changes the powerpc
> linux page table
> walk subtly. We also overload few of the pte flags for ptes at PMD
> level (huge
> page PTEs).
> 
> The related mm/ changes are already merged to Andrew's -mm tree.

[Andrea, question for you near the end ]

So I'm trying to understand how you handle races between hash_page
and collapse.

The generic collapse code does:

	_pmd = pmdp_clear_flush(vma, address, pmd);

Which expects the architecture to essentially have stopped any
concurrent walk by the time it returns.

Your implementation of the above does this:

		pmd = *pmdp;
		pmd_clear(pmdp);
		/*
		 * Now invalidate the hpte entries in the range
		 * covered by pmd. This make sure we take a
		 * fault and will find the pmd as none, which will
		 * result in a major fault which takes mmap_sem and
		 * hence wait for collapse to complete. Without this
		 * the __collapse_huge_page_copy can result in copying
		 * the old content.
		 */
		flush_tlb_pmd_range(vma->vm_mm, &pmd, address);

So we clear the pmd after making a copy of it. This will eventually
prevent a tablewalk but only eventually, once that store becomes visible
to other processors, which may take a while. Then you proceed to flush
the hash table for all the underlying PTEs.

So at this point, hash_page might *still* see the old pmd. Unless I
missed something, you did nothing that will prevent that (the only way
to lock against hash_page is really an IPI & wait or to take the PTE's
busy and make them !present or something). So as far as I can tell,
a concurrent hash_page can still sneak into the hash some "small"
entries after you have supposedly flushed them.

In addition, my reading of __collapse_huge_page_isolate() is that it
expects page_young() to be stable at that point, while because of the
above, a concurrent hash_page() might still be setting _PAGE_ACCESSED
(and _PAGE_DIRTY).

So it might be that you have a sneaky way to perform the synchronization
that I have missed :-) But so far I haven't seen it....

Also, a more general question from Andrea. Looking at the code, I was
originally thinking that there is a similar race with dirty. But then
I noticed that the collapse code doesn't look at dirty at all on the sub
pages, it just ignores it. That stroke me as broken until I also noticed
that you seem to always make the THPs dirty....

Is there a reason for that rather than harvesting dirty in the sub pages
and making the THP's dirty the logical OR of the small pages one ?

I understand that anonymous memory is often either zero or dirty, but
I suppose it can be clear with content as well as a result of swap out
and back in, no ? Or is there other reasons why THPs must be dirty
always ?

Cheers,
Ben.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-06-16  2:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-05 15:28 [PATCH -V10 00/15] THP support for PPC64 Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-06-05 15:28 ` [PATCH -V10 01/15] powerpc/mm: handle hugepage size correctly when invalidating hpte entries Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-06-05 15:28 ` [PATCH -V10 02/15] powerpc/THP: Double the PMD table size for THP Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-06-05 15:28 ` [PATCH -V10 03/15] powerpc/THP: Implement transparent hugepages for ppc64 Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-06-05 15:28 ` [PATCH -V10 04/15] powerpc: move find_linux_pte_or_hugepte and gup_hugepte to common code Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-06-05 15:28 ` [PATCH -V10 05/15] powerpc: Update find_linux_pte_or_hugepte to handle transparent hugepages Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-06-05 15:28 ` [PATCH -V10 06/15] powerpc: Replace find_linux_pte with find_linux_pte_or_hugepte Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-06-05 15:28 ` [PATCH -V10 07/15] powerpc: Update gup_pmd_range to handle transparent hugepages Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-06-05 15:28 ` [PATCH -V10 08/15] powerpc/THP: Add code to handle HPTE faults for hugepages Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-06-05 15:28 ` [PATCH -V10 09/15] powerpc: Make linux pagetable walk safe with THP enabled Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-06-05 15:28 ` [PATCH -V10 10/15] powerpc: Prevent gcc to re-read the pagetables Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-06-05 15:41   ` David Laight
2013-06-05 22:39     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-05 15:28 ` [PATCH -V10 11/15] powerpc/THP: Enable THP on PPC64 Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-06-05 15:28 ` [PATCH -V10 12/15] powerpc: Optimize hugepage invalidate Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-06-05 15:28 ` [PATCH -V10 13/15] powerpc: disable assert_pte_locked for collapse_huge_page Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-06-05 15:28 ` [PATCH -V10 14/15] powerpc: use smp_rmb when looking at deposisted pgtable to store hash index Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-06-05 15:28 ` [PATCH -V10 15/15] powerpc: split hugepage when using subpage protection Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-06-05 23:31 ` [PATCH -V10 00/15] THP support for PPC64 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-06  0:13   ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  6:05     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-06-06  7:20       ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-16  2:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2013-06-16  3:37   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-16  4:06     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-16 23:02       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-18 18:46       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-06-18 22:03         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-19  3:30           ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-06-18 17:54   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V

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