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From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: "Cédric Le Goater" <clg@kaod.org>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add XIVE native exploitation mode
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 16:36:10 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190204053610.GK1927@umbus.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <06b7c4d2-72ba-ca4f-aded-789280798136@kaod.org>

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On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 09:25:04AM +0100, Cédric Le Goater wrote:
> Was there a crashing.org shutdown ? 
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> On 1/23/19 10:35 PM, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > On Wed, 2019-01-23 at 20:07 +0100, Cédric Le Goater wrote:
> >>  Event Assignment Structure, a.k.a IVE (Interrupt Virtualization Entry)
> >>
> >> All the names changed somewhere between XIVE v1 and XIVE v2. OPAL and
> >> Linux should be adjusted ...
> > 
> > All the names changed between the HW design and the "architecture"
> > document. The HW guys use the old names, the architecture the new
> > names, and Linux & OPAL mostly use the old ones because frankly the new
> > names suck big time.
> 
> Well, It does not make XIVE any clearer ... I did prefer the v1 names
> but there was some naming overlap in the concepts. 
> 
> >> It would be good to talk a little about the nested support (offline 
> >> may be) to make sure that we are not missing some major interface that 
> >> would require a lot of change. If we need to prepare ground, I think
> >> the timing is good.
> >>
> >> The size of the IRQ number space might be a problem. It seems we 
> >> would need to increase it considerably to support multiple nested 
> >> guests. That said I haven't look much how nested is designed.  
> > 
> > The size of the VP space is a bigger concern. Even today. We really
> > need qemu to tell the max #cpu to KVM so we can allocate less of them.
> 
> ah yes. we would also need to reduce the number of available priorities 
> per CPU to have more EQ descriptors available if I recall well. 
> 
> > As for nesting, I suggest for the foreseeable future we stick to XICS
> > emulation in nested guests.
> 
> ok. so no kernel_irqchip at all. hmm.  

That would certainly be step 0, making sure the capability advertises
this correctly.  I think we do want to make XICs-on-XIVE emulation
work in a KVM L1 (so we'd need to have it make XIVE hcalls to the L0
instead of OPAL calls).

XIVE-on-XIVE for L1 would be nice too, which would mean implementing
the XIVE hcalls from the L2 in terms of XIVE hcalls to the L0.  I
think it's ok to delay this indefinitely as long as the caps advertise
correctly so that qemu will use userspace emulation until its ready.

> I was wondering how possible it was to have L2 initialize the underlying 
> OPAL structures in the L0 hypervisor. May be with a sort of proxy hcall 
> which would perform the initialization in QEMU L1 on behalf of L2.
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-04  6:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-07 18:43 [PATCH 00/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add XIVE native exploitation mode Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 01/19] powerpc/xive: export flags for the XIVE native exploitation mode hcalls Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-09  3:33   ` David Gibson
2019-01-09 13:08   ` Michael Ellerman
2019-01-09 13:38     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 02/19] powerpc/xive: add OPAL extensions for the XIVE native exploitation support Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-09  4:26   ` David Gibson
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 03/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: check the IRQ controller type Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-09  4:27   ` David Gibson
2019-01-22  4:56   ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 16:24     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  0:50       ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 10:16         ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 04/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: export services for the XIVE native exploitation device Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-11  4:09   ` David Gibson
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 05/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a new KVM device for the XIVE native exploitation mode Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-22  5:05   ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 16:28     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-28 17:35     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-30  4:29       ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-30  7:01         ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-31  3:01           ` Paul Mackerras
2019-02-01 17:03             ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  4:25   ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 11:19     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-05  5:26       ` David Gibson
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 06/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a GET_ESB_FD control to the XIVE native device Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-22  5:09   ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 16:48     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  4:45   ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 11:30     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-05  5:28       ` David Gibson
2019-02-05 12:55         ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-06  1:23           ` David Gibson
2019-02-06  7:21             ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-07  2:49               ` David Gibson
2019-02-07  9:03                 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-08  5:15                   ` David Gibson
2019-02-08  7:58                     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-08 21:53                       ` Paul Mackerras
2019-02-09  9:41                         ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-11  2:38                           ` David Gibson
2019-02-11  6:42                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-02-12 22:07                               ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 07/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a GET_TIMA_FD control to " Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 08/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a VC_BASE control to the " Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-22  5:14   ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 16:56     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  4:49       ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 15:36         ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 09/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a SET_SOURCE " Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  4:57   ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 19:07     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-05  5:35       ` David Gibson
2019-02-05 13:39         ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 10/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a EISN attribute to kvmppc_xive_irq_state Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 11/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add support for the XIVE native exploitation mode hcalls Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-22  5:23   ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23  6:44     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-01-23  8:48       ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-23 10:26         ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 10:48           ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-23 21:23           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 12/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: record guest queue page address Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  5:15   ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 15:37     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 13/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a SYNC control for the XIVE native migration Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  5:17   ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 15:39     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 14/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a control to make the XIVE EQ pages dirty Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  5:18   ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 15:46     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-05  5:30       ` David Gibson
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 15/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add get/set accessors for the source configuration Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  5:21   ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 16:07     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-05  5:32       ` David Gibson
2019-02-05 13:03         ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-06  1:23           ` David Gibson
2019-02-06  1:24             ` David Gibson
2019-02-06  7:07               ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-07  2:48                 ` David Gibson
2019-02-07  9:13                   ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-08  5:15                     ` David Gibson
2019-02-14 16:50                       ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 16/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add get/set accessors for the EQ configuration Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  5:24   ` David Gibson
2019-02-05 17:45     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 19:10 ` [PATCH 17/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add get/set accessors for the VP XIVE state Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 19:10   ` [PATCH 18/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add passthrough support Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-22  5:26     ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23  6:45       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-01-23 10:30         ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 11:07           ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-28  6:13             ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-28 18:26               ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-29  2:45                 ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-29 13:47                   ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-30  6:20                     ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-30 15:54                       ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-31  2:48                         ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-29  4:12                 ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-29 17:44                   ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-30  5:55                     ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-30  7:06                       ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-23 21:25           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-01-24  8:41             ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-28  4:43             ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-29 13:46               ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 19:10   ` [PATCH 19/19] KVM: introduce a KVM_DELETE_DEVICE ioctl Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-22  5:42     ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 18:39       ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-23 21:32         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-02-04  5:26   ` [PATCH 17/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add get/set accessors for the VP XIVE state David Gibson
2019-02-04 18:57     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-05  5:33       ` David Gibson
2019-02-05 11:58         ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-06  1:19           ` David Gibson
2019-01-22  4:46 ` [PATCH 00/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add XIVE native exploitation mode Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 19:07   ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-23 21:35     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-01-26  8:25       ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  5:36         ` David Gibson [this message]
2019-02-05 11:31           ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-05 22:13             ` Paul Mackerras
2019-02-06  1:18               ` David Gibson
2019-02-06  7:35                 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-07  2:51                   ` David Gibson
2019-02-07  8:31                     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-08  5:07                       ` David Gibson
2019-02-08  7:38                         ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-28  5:51     ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-29 13:51       ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-30  5:40         ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-30 15:36           ` Cédric Le Goater

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