From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BC7CA9EA0 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 08:59:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.ozlabs.org (lists.ozlabs.org [203.11.71.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E16C20640 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 08:59:47 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 1E16C20640 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=kernel.crashing.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=linuxppc-dev-bounces+linuxppc-dev=archiver.kernel.org@lists.ozlabs.org Received: from bilbo.ozlabs.org (lists.ozlabs.org [IPv6:2401:3900:2:1::3]) by lists.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46y6rw6P75zDqJX for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 19:59:44 +1100 (AEDT) Authentication-Results: lists.ozlabs.org; spf=permerror (SPF Permanent Error: Unknown mechanism found: ip:192.40.192.88/32) smtp.mailfrom=kernel.crashing.org (client-ip=63.228.1.57; helo=gate.crashing.org; envelope-from=segher@kernel.crashing.org; receiver=) Authentication-Results: lists.ozlabs.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=kernel.crashing.org Received: from gate.crashing.org (gate.crashing.org [63.228.1.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46y6pG5cx1zDqJ1 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 19:57:26 +1100 (AEDT) Received: from gate.crashing.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gate.crashing.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id x9M8vAi3013910; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 03:57:10 -0500 Received: (from segher@localhost) by gate.crashing.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id x9M8v9Dv013909; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 03:57:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: gate.crashing.org: segher set sender to segher@kernel.crashing.org using -f Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 03:57:09 -0500 From: Segher Boessenkool To: Nathan Chancellor Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] powerpc/prom_init: Use -ffreestanding to avoid a reference to bcmp Message-ID: <20191022085709.GI28442@gate.crashing.org> References: <20190911182049.77853-1-natechancellor@gmail.com> <20191014025101.18567-1-natechancellor@gmail.com> <20191014025101.18567-4-natechancellor@gmail.com> <20191014093501.GE28442@gate.crashing.org> <20191014191141.GK28442@gate.crashing.org> <20191018190022.GA1292@ubuntu-m2-xlarge-x86> <20191018200210.GR28442@gate.crashing.org> <20191022051529.GA44041@ubuntu-m2-xlarge-x86> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20191022051529.GA44041@ubuntu-m2-xlarge-x86> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-BeenThere: linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Nick Desaulniers , LKML , clang-built-linux , Paul Mackerras , linuxppc-dev Errors-To: linuxppc-dev-bounces+linuxppc-dev=archiver.kernel.org@lists.ozlabs.org Sender: "Linuxppc-dev" On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 10:15:29PM -0700, Nathan Chancellor wrote: > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 03:02:10PM -0500, Segher Boessenkool wrote: > > I think the proper solution is for the kernel to *do* use -ffreestanding, > > and then somehow tell the kernel that memcpy etc. are the standard > > functions. A freestanding GCC already requires memcpy, memmove, memset, > > memcmp, and sometimes abort to exist and do the standard thing; why cannot > > programs then also rely on it to be the standard functions. > > > > What exact functions are the reason the kernel does not use -ffreestanding? > > Is it just memcpy? Is more wanted? > > I think Linus summarized it pretty well here: > > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAHk-=wi-epJZfBHDbKKDZ64us7WkF=LpUfhvYBmZSteO8Q0RAg@mail.gmail.com/ GCC recognises __builtin_memcpy (or any other __builtin) just fine even with -ffreestanding. So the kernel wants a warning (or error) whenever a call to one of these library functions is generated by the compiler without the user asking for it directly (via a __builtin)? And that is all that is needed for the kernel to use -ffreestanding? That shouldn't be hard. Anything missing here? Segher