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From: Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
Cc: linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org,
	Tang Chen <tangchen@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, paulus@samba.org, hpa@zytor.com,
	sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, cl@linux.com,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com,
	linfeng@cn.fujitsu.com, mgorman@suse.de,
	kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, rientjes@google.com,
	len.brown@intel.com, wency@cn.fujitsu.com, cmetcalf@tilera.com,
	wujianguo@huawei.com, yinghai@kernel.org, laijs@cn.fujitsu.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, minchan.kim@gmail.com,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 00/15] memory-hotplug: hot-remove physical memory
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:31:28 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50EE6E50.3040609@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50EE6A48.7060307@parallels.com>

(2013/01/10 16:14), Glauber Costa wrote:
> On 01/10/2013 06:17 AM, Tang Chen wrote:
>>>> Note: if the memory provided by the memory device is used by the
>>>> kernel, it
>>>> can't be offlined. It is not a bug.
>>>
>>> Right.  But how often does this happen in testing?  In other words,
>>> please provide an overall description of how well memory hot-remove is
>>> presently operating.  Is it reliable?  What is the success rate in
>>> real-world situations?
>>
>> We test the hot-remove functionality mostly with movable_online used.
>> And the memory used by kernel is not allowed to be removed.
>
> Can you try doing this using cpusets configured to hardwall ?
> It is my understanding that the object allocators will try hard not to
> allocate anything outside the walls defined by cpuset. Which means that
> if you have one process per node, and they are hardwalled, your kernel
> memory will be spread evenly among the machine. With a big enough load,
> they should eventually be present in all blocks.
>

I'm sorry I couldn't catch your point.
Do you want to confirm whether cpuset can work enough instead of ZONE_MOVABLE ?
Or Do you want to confirm whether ZONE_MOVABLE will not work if it's used with cpuset ?


> Another question I have for you: Have you considering calling
> shrink_slab to try to deplete the caches and therefore free at least
> slab memory in the nodes that can't be offlined? Is it relevant?
>

At this stage, we don't consider to call shrink_slab(). We require
nearly 100% success at offlining memory for removing DIMM.
It's my understanding.

IMHO, I don't think shrink_slab() can kill all objects in a node even
if they are some caches. We need more study for doing that.

Thanks,
-Kame

  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-10  7:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-09  9:32 [PATCH v6 00/15] memory-hotplug: hot-remove physical memory Tang Chen
2013-01-09  9:32 ` [PATCH v6 01/15] memory-hotplug: try to offline the memory twice to avoid dependence Tang Chen
2013-01-09  9:32 ` [PATCH v6 02/15] memory-hotplug: check whether all memory blocks are offlined or not when removing memory Tang Chen
2013-01-09 23:11   ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-10  5:56     ` Tang Chen
2013-01-09  9:32 ` [PATCH v6 03/15] memory-hotplug: remove redundant codes Tang Chen
2013-01-09  9:32 ` [PATCH v6 04/15] memory-hotplug: remove /sys/firmware/memmap/X sysfs Tang Chen
2013-01-09 22:49   ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-10  6:07     ` Tang Chen
2013-01-09 23:19   ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-10  6:15     ` Tang Chen
2013-01-09  9:32 ` [PATCH v6 05/15] memory-hotplug: introduce new function arch_remove_memory() for removing page table depends on architecture Tang Chen
2013-01-09 22:50   ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-10  2:25     ` Tang Chen
2013-01-09  9:32 ` [PATCH v6 06/15] memory-hotplug: implement register_page_bootmem_info_section of sparse-vmemmap Tang Chen
2013-01-09  9:32 ` [PATCH v6 07/15] memory-hotplug: move pgdat_resize_lock into sparse_remove_one_section() Tang Chen
2013-01-09  9:32 ` [PATCH v6 08/15] memory-hotplug: Common APIs to support page tables hot-remove Tang Chen
2013-01-29 13:02   ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-30  1:53     ` Jianguo Wu
2013-01-30  2:13       ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-29 13:04   ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-30  2:16     ` Tang Chen
2013-01-30  3:27       ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-30  5:55         ` Tang Chen
2013-01-30  7:32           ` Simon Jeons
2013-02-04 23:04   ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-09  9:32 ` [PATCH v6 09/15] memory-hotplug: remove page table of x86_64 architecture Tang Chen
2013-01-09  9:32 ` [PATCH v6 10/15] memory-hotplug: remove memmap of sparse-vmemmap Tang Chen
2013-01-09  9:32 ` [PATCH v6 11/15] memory-hotplug: Integrated __remove_section() of CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP Tang Chen
2013-01-09  9:32 ` [PATCH v6 12/15] memory-hotplug: memory_hotplug: clear zone when removing the memory Tang Chen
2013-01-09  9:32 ` [PATCH v6 13/15] memory-hotplug: remove sysfs file of node Tang Chen
2013-01-09  9:32 ` [PATCH v6 14/15] memory-hotplug: free node_data when a node is offlined Tang Chen
2013-01-09  9:32 ` [PATCH v6 15/15] memory-hotplug: Do not allocate pdgat if it was not freed when offline Tang Chen
2013-01-09 22:23 ` [PATCH v6 00/15] memory-hotplug: hot-remove physical memory Andrew Morton
2013-01-10  2:17   ` Tang Chen
2013-01-10  7:14     ` Glauber Costa
2013-01-10  7:31       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki [this message]
2013-01-10  7:55         ` Glauber Costa
2013-01-10  8:23           ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-01-10  8:36             ` Glauber Costa
2013-01-10  8:39               ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-01-09 23:33 ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-10  2:18   ` Tang Chen
2013-01-29 12:52 ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-30  2:32   ` Tang Chen
2013-01-30  2:48     ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-30  3:00       ` Tang Chen
2013-01-30 10:15   ` Tang Chen
2013-01-30 10:18     ` Tang Chen
2013-01-31  1:22     ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-31  3:31       ` Tang Chen
2013-01-31  6:19         ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-31  7:10           ` Tang Chen
2013-01-31  8:17             ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-31  8:48             ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-31  9:44               ` Tang Chen
2013-01-31 10:38                 ` Simon Jeons
2013-02-01  1:32                   ` Jianguo Wu
2013-02-01  1:36                     ` Simon Jeons
2013-02-01  1:57                       ` Jianguo Wu
2013-02-01  2:06                         ` Simon Jeons
2013-02-01  2:18                           ` Jianguo Wu
2013-02-01  1:57                       ` Tang Chen
2013-02-01  2:17                         ` Simon Jeons
2013-02-01  2:42                           ` Tang Chen
2013-02-01  3:06                             ` Simon Jeons
2013-02-01  3:39                               ` Tang Chen

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