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From: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
To: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Geoff Levand <geoff@infradead.org>,
	Alistair Popple <alistair@popple.id.au>,
	Anatolij Gustschin <agust@denx.de>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/20] powerpc: Convert power off logic to pm_power_off
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2014 01:44:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <542C91D5.3030305@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1412206127.13320.362.camel@snotra.buserror.net>



On 02.10.14 01:28, Scott Wood wrote:
> On Thu, 2014-10-02 at 01:21 +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
>>
>> On 02.10.14 00:39, Scott Wood wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 15:27 +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
>>>> The generic Linux framework to power off the machine is a function pointer
>>>> called pm_power_off. The trick about this pointer is that device drivers can
>>>> potentially implement it rather than board files.
>>>>
>>>> Today on PowerPC we set pm_power_off to invoke our generic full machine power
>>>> off logic which then calls ppc_md.power_off to invoke machine specific power
>>>> off.
>>>>
>>>> However, when we want to add a power off GPIO via the "gpio-poweroff" driver,
>>>> this card house falls apart. That driver only registers itself if pm_power_off
>>>> is NULL to ensure it doesn't override board specific logic. However, since we
>>>> always set pm_power_off to the generic power off logic (which will just not
>>>> power off the machine if no ppc_md.power_off call is implemented), we can't
>>>> implement power off via the generic GPIO power off driver.
>>>>
>>>> To fix this up, let's get rid of the ppc_md.power_off logic and just always use
>>>> pm_power_off as was intended. Then individual drivers such as the GPIO power off
>>>> driver can implement power off logic via that function pointer.
>>>>
>>>> With this patch set applied and a few patches on top of QEMU that implement a
>>>> power off GPIO on the virt e500 machine, I can successfully turn off my virtual
>>>> machine after halt.
>>>
>>> Are there any plans to handle restart similarly?
>>
>> I don't see an immediate need for it, as we do have access to reset via
>> the guts device.
> 
> The guts device is problematic from a hardware description perspective,
> as we advertise a bunch of things to the guest that we don't implement.
> E.g. the only reason we don't currently have a problem with Linux trying
> to use guts to sync the timebase across cores is that by chance we
> happen to expose a guts that corresponds to a single-cpu SoC.

True, and it is slightly ugly to expose a specific SoC's guts in our
generic pv machine type.

> 
>> I also don't see any generic driver in Linux that would implement reset
>> via a gpio controller device, so apparently it's not incredibly common
>> to implement reset via gpio.
> 
> There wasn't a generic gpio-power-off driver either until a couple years
> ago...  Regardless of whether it's done via gpio, using ppc_md for it is
> bad for the same reasons as for power-off.

I agree. Today, only ARM has a comparable mechanism for drivers to hook
a reset handler into the machine specific reset path.

I'd say let's wait for Guenter to finish the power off rework and then
tackle a generic reset call chain based approach next.


Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-01 23:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-01 13:27 [PATCH 00/20] powerpc: Convert power off logic to pm_power_off Alexander Graf
2014-10-01 13:27 ` [PATCH 01/20] powerpc: Support override of pm_power_off Alexander Graf
2014-10-01 13:27 ` [PATCH 02/20] powerpc/xmon: Support either ppc_md.power_off or pm_power_off Alexander Graf
2014-10-01 13:27 ` [PATCH 03/20] powerpc/47x: Use pm_power_off rather than ppc_md.power_off Alexander Graf
2014-10-05  0:39   ` Segher Boessenkool
2014-10-06 10:02     ` Alexander Graf
2014-10-01 13:27 ` [PATCH 04/20] powerpc/52xx/efika: " Alexander Graf
2014-10-01 13:27 ` [PATCH 05/20] powerpc/mpc8349emitx: " Alexander Graf
2014-10-01 13:27 ` [PATCH 06/20] powerpc/corenet: " Alexander Graf
2014-10-01 13:27 ` [PATCH 07/20] powerpc/85xx/sgy_cts1000: " Alexander Graf
2014-10-01 13:27 ` [PATCH 08/20] powerpc/celleb: " Alexander Graf
2014-10-01 13:27 ` [PATCH 09/20] powerpc/cell/qpace: " Alexander Graf
2014-10-01 13:27 ` [PATCH 10/20] powerpc/cell: " Alexander Graf
2014-10-01 13:27 ` [PATCH 11/20] powerpc/chrp: " Alexander Graf
2014-10-01 13:27 ` [PATCH 12/20] powerpc/6xx/gamecube: " Alexander Graf
2014-10-01 13:27 ` [PATCH 13/20] powerpc/6xx/linkstation: " Alexander Graf
2014-10-01 13:28 ` [PATCH 14/20] powerpc/6xx/wii: " Alexander Graf
2014-10-01 13:28 ` [PATCH 15/20] powerpc/maple: " Alexander Graf
2014-10-01 13:28 ` [PATCH 16/20] powerpc/powermac: " Alexander Graf
2014-10-01 13:28 ` [PATCH 17/20] powerpc/powernv: " Alexander Graf
2014-10-01 13:28 ` [PATCH 18/20] powerpc/ps3: " Alexander Graf
2014-10-01 13:28 ` [PATCH 19/20] powerpc/pseries: " Alexander Graf
2014-10-01 13:28 ` [PATCH 20/20] powerpc: Remove ppc_md.power_off Alexander Graf
2014-10-01 14:33 ` [PATCH 00/20] powerpc: Convert power off logic to pm_power_off Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-10-01 14:47   ` Alexander Graf
2014-10-01 14:57     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-10-01 15:54     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-01 21:25       ` Alexander Graf
2014-10-02  2:36         ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-01 22:39 ` Scott Wood
2014-10-01 23:21   ` Alexander Graf
2014-10-01 23:28     ` Scott Wood
2014-10-01 23:44       ` Alexander Graf [this message]
2014-10-02  2:51         ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-03  4:42 ` Michael Ellerman
2014-10-06 10:00   ` Alexander Graf
2014-10-07  6:25     ` Michael Ellerman
2014-10-07 11:35       ` Alexander Graf
2014-10-07 17:00         ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 17:47           ` Alexander Graf
2014-10-07 19:03             ` Guenter Roeck

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