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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/14] m68k: drop custom __access_ok()
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 11:02:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK8P3a0t-dnJXvXH0Mx5L-AeVQe1mYzRi0sQjYxzMQw-mVPv0Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YgtSpk0boDjsyjFK@zeniv-ca.linux.org.uk>

On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 8:13 AM Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 07:29:42AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 12:37:41AM +0000, Al Viro wrote:
> > > Perhaps simply wrap that sucker into #ifdef CONFIG_CPU_HAS_ADDRESS_SPACES
> > > (and trim the comment down to "coldfire and 68000 will pick generic
> > > variant")?
> >
> > I wonder if we should invert CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_NON_OVERLAPPING_ADDRESS_SPACE,
> > select the separate address space config for s390, sparc64, non-coldfire
> > m68k and mips with EVA and then just have one single access_ok for
> > overlapping address space (as added by Arnd) and non-overlapping ones
> > (always return true).
>
> parisc is also such...  How about
>
>         select ALTERNATE_SPACE_USERLAND
>
> for that bunch?

Either of those works for me. My current version has this keyed off
TASK_SIZE_MAX==ULONG_MAX, but a CONFIG_ symbol does
look more descriptive.

>  While we are at it, how many unusual access_ok() instances are
> left after this series?  arm64, itanic, um, anything else?

x86 adds a WARN_ON_IN_IRQ() check in there. This could be
made generic, but it's not obvious what exactly the exceptions are
that other architectures need. The arm64 tagged pointers could
probably also get integrated into the generic version.

> FWIW, sparc32 has a slightly unusual instance (see uaccess_32.h there); it's
> obviously cheaper than generic and I wonder if the trick is legitimate (and
> applicable elsewhere, perhaps)...

Right, a few others have the same, but I wasn't convinced that this
is actually safe for call possible cases: it's trivial to construct a caller
that works on other architectures but not this one, if you pass a large
enough size value and don't access the contents in sequence.

Also, like the ((addr | (addr + size)) & MASK) check on some other
architectures, it is less portable because it makes assumptions about
the actual layout beyond a fixed address limit.

        Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-15 10:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-14 16:34 [PATCH 00/14] clean up asm/uaccess.h, kill set_fs for good Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-14 16:34 ` [PATCH 01/14] uaccess: fix integer overflow on access_ok() Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-14 16:58   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-02-14 16:34 ` [PATCH 02/14] sparc64: add __{get,put}_kernel_nocheck() Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-14 16:34 ` [PATCH 03/14] nds32: fix access_ok() checks in get/put_user Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-14 17:01   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-02-14 17:10     ` David Laight
2022-02-15  9:18     ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-15 10:25       ` Greg KH
2022-02-14 16:34 ` [PATCH 04/14] x86: use more conventional access_ok() definition Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-14 17:02   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-02-14 19:45     ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-14 20:00       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-02-14 20:01       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-02-14 20:17         ` Al Viro
2022-02-15  2:47           ` Al Viro
2022-02-14 20:24         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-02-14 22:13           ` David Laight
2022-02-14 16:34 ` [PATCH 05/14] uaccess: add generic __{get,put}_kernel_nofault Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-14 17:02   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-02-15  0:31   ` Al Viro
2022-02-15 13:16     ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-14 16:34 ` [PATCH 06/14] mips: use simpler access_ok() Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-14 16:34 ` [PATCH 07/14] uaccess: generalize access_ok() Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-14 17:04   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-02-14 17:15   ` Al Viro
2022-02-14 19:25     ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-15 10:58   ` Mark Rutland
2022-02-14 16:34 ` [PATCH 08/14] arm64: simplify access_ok() Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-14 21:06   ` Robin Murphy
2022-02-15  8:17   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-02-15  9:12     ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-15  9:21       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-02-15  9:39         ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-15 10:39           ` Mark Rutland
2022-02-15 10:37         ` Mark Rutland
2022-02-16 19:43       ` Christophe Leroy
2022-02-15  9:30     ` David Laight
2022-02-15 11:24       ` Mark Rutland
2022-02-15 11:07   ` Mark Rutland
2022-02-14 16:34 ` [PATCH 09/14] m68k: drop custom __access_ok() Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-15  0:37   ` Al Viro
2022-02-15  6:29     ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-02-15  7:13       ` Al Viro
2022-02-15 10:02         ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2022-02-15 13:28           ` David Laight
2022-02-14 16:34 ` [PATCH 10/14] uaccess: remove most CONFIG_SET_FS users Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-14 17:06   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-02-14 19:40     ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-14 16:34 ` [PATCH 11/14] sparc64: remove CONFIG_SET_FS support Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-14 17:06   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-02-16 13:06     ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-15  0:48   ` Al Viro
2022-02-16 13:07     ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-14 16:34 ` [PATCH 12/14] sh: " Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-14 16:34 ` [PATCH 13/14] ia64: " Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-14 16:34 ` [PATCH 14/14] uaccess: drop set_fs leftovers Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-15  3:03   ` Al Viro
2022-02-15  7:46     ` Helge Deller
2022-02-15  8:10       ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-14 17:35 ` [PATCH 00/14] clean up asm/uaccess.h, kill set_fs for good Linus Torvalds

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