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From: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 5/6] dt-bindings: of: Add restricted DMA pool
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 15:31:17 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAL_JsqKjTqcCbCLksRbCh7=f-A3Y09A3jNqtUApaA+p=RKd_Eg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <313f8052-a591-75de-c4c2-ee9ea8f02e7f@arm.com>

On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 11:30 AM Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com> wrote:
>
> On 2021-01-20 16:53, Rob Herring wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 11:41:23AM +0800, Claire Chang wrote:
> >> Introduce the new compatible string, restricted-dma-pool, for restricted
> >> DMA. One can specify the address and length of the restricted DMA memory
> >> region by restricted-dma-pool in the device tree.
> >
> > If this goes into DT, I think we should be able to use dma-ranges for
> > this purpose instead. Normally, 'dma-ranges' is for physical bus
> > restrictions, but there's no reason it can't be used for policy or to
> > express restrictions the firmware has enabled.
>
> There would still need to be some way to tell SWIOTLB to pick up the
> corresponding chunk of memory and to prevent the kernel from using it
> for anything else, though.

Don't we already have that problem if dma-ranges had a very small
range? We just get lucky because the restriction is generally much
more RAM than needed.

In any case, wouldn't finding all the dma-ranges do this? We're
already walking the tree to find the max DMA address now.

> >> Signed-off-by: Claire Chang <tientzu@chromium.org>
> >> ---
> >>   .../reserved-memory/reserved-memory.txt       | 24 +++++++++++++++++++
> >>   1 file changed, 24 insertions(+)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/reserved-memory/reserved-memory.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/reserved-memory/reserved-memory.txt
> >> index e8d3096d922c..44975e2a1fd2 100644
> >> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/reserved-memory/reserved-memory.txt
> >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/reserved-memory/reserved-memory.txt
> >> @@ -51,6 +51,20 @@ compatible (optional) - standard definition
> >>             used as a shared pool of DMA buffers for a set of devices. It can
> >>             be used by an operating system to instantiate the necessary pool
> >>             management subsystem if necessary.
> >> +        - restricted-dma-pool: This indicates a region of memory meant to be
> >> +          used as a pool of restricted DMA buffers for a set of devices. The
> >> +          memory region would be the only region accessible to those devices.
> >> +          When using this, the no-map and reusable properties must not be set,
> >> +          so the operating system can create a virtual mapping that will be used
> >> +          for synchronization. The main purpose for restricted DMA is to
> >> +          mitigate the lack of DMA access control on systems without an IOMMU,
> >> +          which could result in the DMA accessing the system memory at
> >> +          unexpected times and/or unexpected addresses, possibly leading to data
> >> +          leakage or corruption. The feature on its own provides a basic level
> >> +          of protection against the DMA overwriting buffer contents at
> >> +          unexpected times. However, to protect against general data leakage and
> >> +          system memory corruption, the system needs to provide way to restrict
> >> +          the DMA to a predefined memory region.
> >>           - vendor specific string in the form <vendor>,[<device>-]<usage>
> >>   no-map (optional) - empty property
> >>       - Indicates the operating system must not create a virtual mapping
> >> @@ -120,6 +134,11 @@ one for multimedia processing (named multimedia-memory@77000000, 64MiB).
> >>                      compatible = "acme,multimedia-memory";
> >>                      reg = <0x77000000 0x4000000>;
> >>              };
> >> +
> >> +            restricted_dma_mem_reserved: restricted_dma_mem_reserved {
> >> +                    compatible = "restricted-dma-pool";
> >> +                    reg = <0x50000000 0x400000>;
> >> +            };
> >>      };
> >>
> >>      /* ... */
> >> @@ -138,4 +157,9 @@ one for multimedia processing (named multimedia-memory@77000000, 64MiB).
> >>              memory-region = <&multimedia_reserved>;
> >>              /* ... */
> >>      };
> >> +
> >> +    pcie_device: pcie_device@0,0 {
> >> +            memory-region = <&restricted_dma_mem_reserved>;
> >
> > PCI hosts often have inbound window configurations that limit the
> > address range and translate PCI to bus addresses. Those windows happen
> > to be configured by dma-ranges. In any case, wouldn't you want to put
> > the configuration in the PCI host node? Is there a usecase of
> > restricting one PCIe device and not another?
>
> The general design seems to accommodate devices having their own pools
> such that they can't even snoop on each others' transient DMA data. If
> the interconnect had a way of wiring up, say, PCI RIDs to AMBA NSAIDs,
> then in principle you could certainly apply that to PCI endpoints too
> (presumably you'd also disallow them from peer-to-peer transactions at
> the PCI level too).

At least for PCI, I think we can handle this. We have the BDF in the
3rd address cell in dma-ranges. The Openfirmware spec says those are 0
in the case of ranges. It doesn't talk about dma-ranges though. But I
think we could extend it to allow for BDF. Though typically with PCIe
every device is behind its own bridge and each bridge node can have a
dma-ranges.

Rob

  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-20 21:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-06  3:41 [RFC PATCH v3 0/6] Restricted DMA Claire Chang
2021-01-06  3:41 ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/6] swiotlb: Add io_tlb_mem struct Claire Chang
2021-01-13 11:50   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-01-06  3:41 ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/6] swiotlb: Add restricted DMA pool Claire Chang
2021-01-06  7:50   ` Greg KH
2021-01-13 11:51     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-01-13 12:29       ` Greg KH
2021-01-13 12:37         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-01-06 18:52   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2021-01-07 17:39     ` Claire Chang
2021-01-07 17:57       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2021-01-07 18:09         ` Florian Fainelli
2021-01-07 21:19           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2021-01-12 23:52             ` Florian Fainelli
2021-01-25  5:26           ` Jon Masters
2021-01-13  1:53         ` Robin Murphy
2021-01-13  0:03   ` Florian Fainelli
2021-01-13 13:59     ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2021-01-13 15:27       ` Robin Murphy
2021-01-13 17:43         ` Florian Fainelli
2021-01-13 18:03           ` Robin Murphy
2021-01-13 12:42   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-01-14  9:06     ` Claire Chang
2021-01-06  3:41 ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/6] swiotlb: Use restricted DMA pool if available Claire Chang
2021-01-12 23:39   ` Florian Fainelli
2021-01-13 12:44   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-01-06  3:41 ` [RFC PATCH v3 4/6] swiotlb: Add restricted DMA alloc/free support Claire Chang
2021-01-12 23:41   ` Florian Fainelli
2021-01-13 12:48   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-01-13 18:27     ` Robin Murphy
2021-01-13 18:32       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-01-06  3:41 ` [RFC PATCH v3 5/6] dt-bindings: of: Add restricted DMA pool Claire Chang
2021-01-06 18:57   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2021-01-07 17:39     ` Claire Chang
2021-01-07 18:00       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2021-01-07 18:14         ` Florian Fainelli
2021-01-12  7:47           ` Claire Chang
2021-01-20 16:53   ` Rob Herring
2021-01-20 17:30     ` Robin Murphy
2021-01-20 21:31       ` Rob Herring [this message]
2021-01-21  1:09         ` Robin Murphy
2021-01-21 15:48           ` Rob Herring
2021-01-21 17:29             ` Robin Murphy
2021-01-06  3:41 ` [RFC PATCH v3 6/6] of: Add plumbing for " Claire Chang
2021-01-12 23:48   ` Florian Fainelli
2021-01-14  9:08     ` Claire Chang
2021-01-14 18:52       ` Florian Fainelli
2021-01-15  3:46         ` Claire Chang
2021-01-06 18:48 ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/6] Restricted DMA Florian Fainelli
2021-01-07 17:38   ` Claire Chang
2021-01-07 17:42   ` Claire Chang
2021-01-07 17:59     ` Florian Fainelli
2021-01-12  7:48       ` Claire Chang
2021-01-12 18:01         ` Florian Fainelli
2021-01-13  2:29           ` Tomasz Figa
2021-01-13  3:56             ` Florian Fainelli
2021-01-13  4:25               ` Tomasz Figa
2021-01-13  4:41                 ` Florian Fainelli
2021-02-09  6:27                   ` Claire Chang

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