Hello Peter, thanks for the feedback! On Thu, 2019-10-03 at 13:51 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Thu, Oct 03, 2019 at 09:11:45AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 02, 2019 at 10:33:15PM -0300, Leonardo Bras wrote: > > > diff --git a/include/asm-generic/pgtable.h b/include/asm-generic/pgtable.h > > > index 818691846c90..3043ea9812d5 100644 > > > --- a/include/asm-generic/pgtable.h > > > +++ b/include/asm-generic/pgtable.h > > > @@ -1171,6 +1171,64 @@ static inline bool arch_has_pfn_modify_check(void) > > > #endif > > > #endif > > > > > > +#ifndef __HAVE_ARCH_LOCKLESS_PGTBL_WALK_CONTROL > > > +static inline unsigned long begin_lockless_pgtbl_walk(struct mm_struct *mm) > > > +{ > > > + unsigned long irq_mask; > > > + > > > + if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_LOCKLESS_PAGE_TABLE_WALK_TRACKING)) > > > + atomic_inc(&mm->lockless_pgtbl_walkers); > > > > This will not work for file backed THP. Also, this is a fairly serious > > contention point all on its own. > > Kiryl says we have tmpfs-thp, this would be broken vs that, as would > your (PowerPC) use of mm_cpumask() for that IPI. Could you please explain it? I mean, why this breaks tmpfs-thp? Also, why mm_cpumask() is also broken? > > > > + /* > > > + * Interrupts must be disabled during the lockless page table walk. > > > + * That's because the deleting or splitting involves flushing TLBs, > > > + * which in turn issues interrupts, that will block when disabled. > > > + */ > > > + local_irq_save(irq_mask); > > > + > > > + /* > > > + * This memory barrier pairs with any code that is either trying to > > > + * delete page tables, or split huge pages. Without this barrier, > > > + * the page tables could be read speculatively outside of interrupt > > > + * disabling. > > > + */ > > > + smp_mb(); > > > > I don't think this is something smp_mb() can guarantee. smp_mb() is > > defined to order memory accesses, in this case the store of the old > > flags vs whatever comes after this. > > > > It cannot (in generic) order against completion of prior instructions, > > like clearing the interrupt enabled flags. > > > > Possibly you want barrier_nospec(). > > I'm still really confused about this barrier. It just doesn't make > sense. > > If an interrupt happens before the local_irq_disable()/save(), then it > will discard any and all speculation that would be in progress to handle > the exception. > > If there isn't an interrupt (or it happens after disable) it is > irrelevant. > > Specifically, that serialize-IPI thing wants to ensure in-progress > lookups are complete, and I can't find a scenario where > local_irq_disable/enable() needs additional help vs IPIs. The moment an > interrupt lands it kills speculation and forces things into > program-order. > > Did you perhaps want something like: > > if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_LOCKLESS_PAGE_TABLE_WALK_TRACKING)) { > atomic_inc(&foo); > smp_mb__after_atomic(); > } > > ... > > if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_LOCKLESS_PAGE_TABLE_WALK_TRACKING)) { > smp_mb__before_atomic(); > atomic_dec(&foo); > } > > To ensure everything happens inside of the increment? > I need to rethink this barrier, but yes. I think that's it. It's how it was on v4. I have changed it because I thought it would be better this way. Well, it was probably a mistake of my part. > And I still think all that wrong, you really shouldn't need to wait on > munmap(). That is something I need to better understand. I mean, before coming with this patch, I thought exactly this: not serialize when on munmap. But on the way I was convinced it would not work on munmap. I need to recall why, and if it was false to assume this, re-think the whole solution. Best regards, Leonardo BrĂ¡s