From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.3 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5B0C433ED for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 12:43:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.ozlabs.org (lists.ozlabs.org [112.213.38.117]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D85061155 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 12:43:20 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 3D85061155 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=csgroup.eu Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=linuxppc-dev-bounces+linuxppc-dev=archiver.kernel.org@lists.ozlabs.org Received: from boromir.ozlabs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by lists.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FL2Ff64Dtz3byG for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 22:43:18 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: lists.ozlabs.org; spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=csgroup.eu (client-ip=93.17.236.30; helo=pegase1.c-s.fr; envelope-from=christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu; receiver=) Received: from pegase1.c-s.fr (pegase1.c-s.fr [93.17.236.30]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FL2FJ2hnxz2yZL for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 22:42:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: from localhost (mailhub1-int [192.168.12.234]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FL2F84yKmz9txVV; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 14:42:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at c-s.fr Received: from pegase1.c-s.fr ([192.168.12.234]) by localhost (pegase1.c-s.fr [192.168.12.234]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nM2lXP3VZmSI; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 14:42:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from messagerie.si.c-s.fr (messagerie.si.c-s.fr [192.168.25.192]) by pegase1.c-s.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FL2F83Ygfz9txVT; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 14:42:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by messagerie.si.c-s.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6208B7C6; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 14:42:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at c-s.fr Received: from messagerie.si.c-s.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (messagerie.si.c-s.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10023) with ESMTP id G6vVtpZps7WL; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 14:42:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.4.90] (unknown [192.168.4.90]) by messagerie.si.c-s.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3858B7C0; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 14:42:52 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] powerpc/bitops: Use immediate operand when possible To: Segher Boessenkool , Nicholas Piggin References: <09da6fec57792d6559d1ea64e00be9870b02dab4.1617896018.git.christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu> <20210412215428.GM26583@gate.crashing.org> <20210413215803.GT26583@gate.crashing.org> <1618365589.67fxh7cot9.astroid@bobo.none> <20210414122409.GV26583@gate.crashing.org> From: Christophe Leroy Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 14:42:51 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20210414122409.GV26583@gate.crashing.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: fr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Paul Mackerras , linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Errors-To: linuxppc-dev-bounces+linuxppc-dev=archiver.kernel.org@lists.ozlabs.org Sender: "Linuxppc-dev" Le 14/04/2021 à 14:24, Segher Boessenkool a écrit : > On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 12:01:21PM +1000, Nicholas Piggin wrote: >> Would be nice if we could let the compiler deal with it all... >> >> static inline unsigned long lr(unsigned long *mem) >> { >> unsigned long val; >> >> /* >> * This doesn't clobber memory but want to avoid memory operations >> * moving ahead of it >> */ >> asm volatile("ldarx %0, %y1" : "=r"(val) : "Z"(*mem) : "memory"); >> >> return val; >> } > > (etc.) > > That can not work reliably: the compiler can put random instructions > between the larx and stcx. this way, and you then do not have guaranteed > forward progress anymore. It can put the two in different routines > (after inlining and other interprocedural optimisations), duplicate > them, make a different number of copies of them, etc. > > Nothing of that is okay if you want to guarantee forward progress on all > implementations, and also not if you want to have good performance > everywhere (or anywhere even). Unfortunately you have to write all > larx/stcx. loops as one block of assembler, so that you know exactly > what instructions will end up in your binary. > > If you don't, it will fail mysteriously after random recompilations, or > have performance degradations, etc. You don't want to go there :-) > Could the kernel use GCC builtin atomic functions instead ? https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/_005f_005fatomic-Builtins.html