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linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: KVM list , Fabiano Rosas , Alistair Popple , kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev , David Gibson Errors-To: linuxppc-dev-bounces+linuxppc-dev=archiver.kernel.org@lists.ozlabs.org Sender: "Linuxppc-dev" On 21/04/2020 16:35, Oliver O'Halloran wrote: > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 3:11 PM Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote: >> >> One example of a problem device is AMD GPU with 64bit video PCI function >> and 32bit audio, no? >> >> What PEs will they get assigned to now? Where will audio's MMIO go? It >> cannot be the same 64bit MMIO segment, right? If so, it is a separate PE >> already. If not, then I do not understand "we're free to assign whatever >> PE number we want. > > The BARs stay in the same place and as far as MMIO is concerned > nothing has changed. For MMIO the PHB uses the MMIO address to find a > PE via the M64 BAR table, but for DMA it uses a *completely* different > mechanism. Instead it takes the BDFN (included in the DMA packet > header) and the Requester Translation Table (RTT) to map the BDFN to a > PE. Normally you would configure the PHB so the same PE used for MMIO > and DMA, but you don't have to. 32bit MMIO is what puzzles me in this picture, how does it work? >>> I think the key thing to realise is that we'd only be using the DMA-PE >>> when a crippled DMA mask is set by the driver. In all other cases we >>> can just use the "native PE" and when the driver unbinds we can de- >>> allocate our DMA-PE and return the device to the PE containing it's >>> MMIO BARs. I think we can keep things relatively sane that way and the >>> real issue is detecting EEH events on the DMA-PE. >> >> >> Oooor we could just have 1 DMA window (or, more precisely, a single >> "TVE" as it is either window or bypass) per a PE and give every function >> its own PE and create a window or a table when a device sets a DMA mask. >> I feel I am missing something here though. > > Yes, we could do that, but do we want to? > > I was thinking we should try minimise the number of DMA-only PEs since > it complicates the EEH freeze handling. When MMIO and DMA are mapped > to the same PE an error on either will cause the hardware to stop > both. When seperate PEs are used for DMA and MMIO you lose that > atomicity. It's not a big deal if DMA is stopped and MMIO allowed > since PAPR (sort-of) allows that, but having MMIO frozen with DMA > unfrozen is a bit sketch. You suggested using slave PEs for crippled functions - won't we have the same problem then? And is this "slave PE" something the hardware supports or it is a software concept? >>>> For the time being, this patchset is good for: >>>> 1. weird hardware which has limited DMA mask (this is why the patchset >>>> was written in the first place) >>>> 2. debug DMA by routing it via IOMMU (even when 4GB hack is not enabled). >>> >>> Sure, but it's still dependent on having firmware which supports the >>> 4GB hack and I don't think that's in any offical firmware releases yet. >> >> It's been a while :-/ > > There's been no official FW releases with a skiboot that supports the > phb get/set option opal calls so the only systems that can actually > take advantage of it are our lab systems. It might still be useful for > future systems, but I'd rather something that doesn't depend on FW > support. Pensando folks use it ;) -- Alexey