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From: "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@redhat.com>,
	Evgenii Shatokhin <eshatokhin@virtuozzo.com>,
	Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen@linux.intel.com>,
	Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de,
	arjan@linux.intel.com, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com, rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Jessica Yu <jeyu@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/10] Function Granular KASLR
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 20:48:17 -0400
Message-ID: <20200804004817.GD30810@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202008031439.F1399A588@keescook>

Hi -

> > We have relocated based on sections, not some subset of function
> > symbols accessible that way, partly because DWARF line- and DIE- based
> > probes can map to addresses some way away from function symbols, into
> > function interiors, or cloned/moved bits of optimized code.  It would
> > take some work to prove that function-symbol based heuristic
> > arithmetic would have just as much reach.
> 
> Interesting. Do you have an example handy? 

No, I'm afraid I don't have one that I know cannot possibly be
expressed by reference to a function symbol only.  I'd look at
systemtap (4.3) probe point lists like:

% stap -vL 'kernel.statement("*@kernel/*verif*.c:*")'
% stap -vL 'module("amdgpu").statement("*@*execution*.c:*")'

which give an impression of computed PC addresses.

> It seems like something like that would reference the enclosing
> section, which means we can't just leave them out of the sysfs
> list... (but if such things never happen in the function-sections,
> then we *can* remove them...)

I'm not sure we can easily prove they can never happen there.

- FChE


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Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20200717170008.5949-1-kristen@linux.intel.com>
2020-07-22  9:27 ` Miroslav Benes
2020-07-22 14:39   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-22 14:51     ` Joe Lawrence
2020-07-22 14:56       ` Joe Lawrence
2020-07-22 18:24         ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-22 16:07     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-07-22 19:42       ` Kees Cook
2020-07-22 19:56         ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-22 21:33           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-08-21 23:02             ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-08-25 16:16               ` Joe Lawrence
2020-08-28 10:21               ` Miroslav Benes
2020-08-28 19:24                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-08-03 11:39   ` Evgenii Shatokhin
2020-08-03 17:45     ` Kees Cook
2020-08-03 18:17       ` Joe Lawrence
2020-08-03 19:38         ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-08-03 20:11           ` Kees Cook
2020-08-03 21:12             ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-08-03 21:41               ` Kees Cook
2020-08-04  0:48                 ` Frank Ch. Eigler [this message]
2020-08-04 17:04         ` Jessica Yu
2020-08-04 18:23 ` Joe Lawrence
2020-08-07 16:38   ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-08-07 17:20     ` Kees Cook
2020-08-10 16:10       ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-08-12 17:18   ` Kristen Carlson Accardi

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