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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
	Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@redhat.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, live-patching@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation: livepatch: document reliable stacktrace
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 11:54:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210114115418.GB2739@C02TD0UTHF1T.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210113192735.rg2fxwlfrzueinci@treble>

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 01:33:13PM -0600, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 04:57:43PM +0000, Mark Brown wrote:
> > From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
> > +There are several ways an architecture may identify kernel code which is deemed
> > +unreliable to unwind from, e.g.
> > +
> > +* Using metadata created by objtool, with such code annotated with
> > +  SYM_CODE_{START,END} or STACKFRAME_NON_STANDARD().
> 
> I'm not sure why SYM_CODE_{START,END} is mentioned here, but it doesn't
> necessarily mean the code is unreliable, and objtool doesn't treat it as
> such.  Its mention can probably be removed unless there was some other
> point I'm missing.
> 
> Also, s/STACKFRAME/STACK_FRAME/

When I wrote this, I was under the impression that (for x86) code marked
as SYM_CODE_{START,END} wouldn't be considered as a function by objtool.
Specifically SYM_FUNC_END() marks the function with SYM_T_FUNC whereas
SYM_CODE_END() marks it with SYM_T_NONE, and IIRC I thought that objtool
only generated ORC for SYM_T_FUNC functions, and hence anything else
would be considered not unwindable due to the absence of ORC.

Just to check, is that understanding for x86 correct, or did I get that
wrong?

If that's right, it might be worth splitting this into two points, e.g.

| * Using metadata created by objtool, with such code annotated with
|   STACKFRAME_NON_STANDARD().
|
|
| * Using ELF symbol attributes, with such code annotated with
|   SYM_CODE_{START,END}, and not having a function type.

If that's wrong, I suspect there are latent issues here?

Thanks,
Mark.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-01-14 11:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-13 16:57 [PATCH] Documentation: livepatch: document reliable stacktrace Mark Brown
2021-01-13 19:33 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-01-13 20:23   ` Mark Brown
2021-01-13 22:25     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-01-14 18:10       ` Mark Rutland
2021-01-15  0:03         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-01-14 11:54   ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2021-01-14 14:36     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-01-14 17:49       ` Mark Rutland
2021-01-14 20:03         ` Josh Poimboeuf
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-10-23 15:35 Mark Rutland
2020-10-27 11:16 ` Petr Mladek
2020-10-29 10:04 ` Miroslav Benes

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