From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248AAC433DB for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 01:25:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7DAA64E5C for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 01:25:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230452AbhBWBZc (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Feb 2021 20:25:32 -0500 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:38280 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229967AbhBWBYP (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Feb 2021 20:24:15 -0500 Received: by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 661F860232; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 01:23:33 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1614043415; bh=VQBJvAaPvVk3ewwCQ9qqE3Oyikga6Xw0ZOguULkFO0U=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=ct3gFvNnmoFf+fH0MuzKVyWNchfaSBuU8VO5TF42pVs7kTGWv9u5ZerxhLCveUkQz z+909UKLqMA3c9alZcAMivXemWqP97XoZ942HLtmTgzNpXt6bcqMVyIicdVOXxVxbj cNI0qhERdBPVeXNtfYWaQ5QQWOprxIXi8cuoXrFsjk5etB//VX3SLeBLZYGWzX8sD8 cQ8i7RXhYd3RLRZHVIQKX30mxhwXTjFR5zYGxh/vcdLHY7A8joJtt0bSgNADNDVS6F KEHES3vgj4xVWu2q7t4PyxX2J4rYFX4JPm8B6cqqiASpMMK04W2Q7Axo8S6kHwGxkN qh6xrK/Atygkg== Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 10:23:31 +0900 From: Masami Hiramatsu To: Josh Poimboeuf Cc: Evgenii Shatokhin , Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo , Kristen Carlson Accardi , live-patching@vger.kernel.org, Peter Zijlstra , Ingo Molnar , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Konstantin Khorenko Subject: Re: 'perf probe' and symbols from .text. Message-Id: <20210223102331.147d62de88886a75013c10e0@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: <20210222175150.yxgw3sxxaqjqgq56@treble> References: <09257fb8-3ded-07b0-b3cc-55d5431698d8@virtuozzo.com> <20210223000508.cab3cddaa3a3790525f49247@kernel.org> <20210222175150.yxgw3sxxaqjqgq56@treble> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: live-patching@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 22 Feb 2021 11:51:50 -0600 Josh Poimboeuf wrote: > On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 12:05:08AM +0900, Masami Hiramatsu wrote: > > > Of course, one could place probes using absolute addresses of the > > > functions but that would be less convenient. > > > > > > This also affects many livepatch modules where the kernel code can be > > > compiled with -ffunction-sections and each function may end up in a > > > separate section .text.. 'perf probe' cannot be used > > > there, except with the absolute addresses. > > > > > > Moreover, if FGKASLR patches are merged > > > (https://lwn.net/Articles/832434/) and the kernel is built with FGKASLR > > > enabled, -ffunction-sections will be used too. 'perf probe' will be > > > unable to see the kernel functions then. > > > > Hmm, if the FGKASLAR really randomizes the symbol address, perf-probe > > should give up "_text-relative" probe for that kernel, and must fallback > > to the "symbol-based" probe. (Are there any way to check the FGKASLR is on?) > > The problem of "symbol-based" probe is that local (static) symbols > > may share a same name sometimes. In that case, it can not find correct > > symbol. (Maybe I can find a candidate from its size.) > > Anyway, sometimes the security and usability are trade-off. > > We had a similar issue with FGKASLR and live patching. The proposed > solution is a new linker flag which eliminates duplicates: -z > unique-symbol. > > https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=26391 Interesting, but it might not be enough for perf-probe. Since the perf-probe has to handle both dwarf and elf, both must be changed. I think the problem is that the dwarf is generated while compiling, but this -z seems converting elf symbols in linkage. As far as I can see, this appends ".COUNT" suffix to the non-unique symbols in the linkage phase. Is that also applied to dwarf too? Thank you, -- Masami Hiramatsu