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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: gor@linux.ibm.com, jpoimboe@redhat.com, jikos@kernel.org,
	mbenes@suse.cz, mingo@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	joe.lawrence@redhat.com, fweisbec@gmail.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	hca@linux.ibm.com, svens@linux.ibm.com, sumanthk@linux.ibm.com,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org, paulmck@kernel.org,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2 10/11] livepatch: Remove klp_synchronize_transition()
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 14:30:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YV2W60GY66Qh5Au+@alley> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210929152429.125997206@infradead.org>

On Wed 2021-09-29 17:17:33, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> The whole premise is broken, any trace usage outside of RCU is a BUG
> and should be fixed. Notable all code prior (and a fair bit after)
> ct_user_exit() is noinstr and explicitly doesn't allow any tracing.

I see. Is the situation the same with idle threads? I see that some
functions, called inside rcu_idle_enter()/exit() are still visible
for ftrace. For example, arch_cpu_idle() or tick_check_broadcast_expired().

That said, I am not sure if anyone would ever want to livepatch
this code. And there is still a workaround by livepatching
the callers.

Also it should be easy to catch eventual problems if we check
rcu_is_watching() in klp_ftrace_handler(). Most affected
scheduler and idle code paths will likely be called
even during the simple boot test.


> Use regular RCU, which has the benefit of actually respecting
> NOHZ_FULL.

Good to know.

After all, the patch looks good to me. I would just add something like:

--- a/kernel/livepatch/patch.c
+++ b/kernel/livepatch/patch.c
@@ -69,6 +69,12 @@ static void notrace klp_ftrace_handler(unsigned long ip,
 	if (WARN_ON_ONCE(!func))
 		goto unlock;
 
+	if (!rcu_is_watching()) {
+		printk_deferred_once(KERN_WARNING
+				     "warning: called \"%s\" without RCU watching. The function is not guarded by the consistency model. Also beware when removing the livepatch module.\n",
+				     func->old_name);
+	}
+
 	/*
 	 * In the enable path, enforce the order of the ops->func_stack and
 	 * func->transition reads.  The corresponding write barrier is in

But we could do this in a separate patch later.

Feel free to use:

Reviewed-by: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>

Best Regards,
Petr

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-06 12:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-29 15:17 [PATCH v2 00/11] sched,rcu,context_tracking,livepatch: Improve livepatch task transitions for idle and NOHZ_FULL Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 15:17 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] sched: Improve try_invoke_on_locked_down_task() Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 15:17 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] sched,rcu: Rework try_invoke_on_locked_down_task() Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 15:17 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] sched,livepatch: Use task_call_func() Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-05 11:40   ` Petr Mladek
2021-10-05 14:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-06  8:59   ` Miroslav Benes
2021-09-29 15:17 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] sched: Simplify wake_up_*idle*() Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-13 14:32   ` Qian Cai
2021-10-19  3:47     ` Qian Cai
2021-10-19  8:56       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-19  9:10         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-19 15:32           ` Qian Cai
2021-10-19 15:50             ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-19 19:22               ` Qian Cai
2021-10-19 20:27                 ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]   ` <CGME20211022134630eucas1p2e79e2816587d182c580459d567c1f2a9@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2021-10-22 13:46     ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-09-29 15:17 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] sched,livepatch: Use wake_up_if_idle() Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-05 12:00   ` Petr Mladek
2021-10-06  9:16   ` Miroslav Benes
2021-10-07  9:18     ` Vasily Gorbik
2021-10-07 10:02       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-13 19:37   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-10-14 10:42     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 15:17 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 06/11] context_tracking: Prefix user_{enter,exit}*() Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 15:17 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 07/11] context_tracking: Add an atomic sequence/state count Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 15:17 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 08/11] context_tracking,rcu: Replace RCU dynticks counter with context_tracking Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 18:37   ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-09-29 19:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 19:11     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 19:13     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 19:24       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 19:45         ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-09-29 18:54   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 15:17 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 09/11] context_tracking,livepatch: Dont disturb NOHZ_FULL Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-06  8:12   ` Petr Mladek
2021-10-06  9:04     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-06 10:29       ` Petr Mladek
2021-10-06 11:41         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-06 11:48         ` Miroslav Benes
2021-09-29 15:17 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 10/11] livepatch: Remove klp_synchronize_transition() Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-06 12:30   ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2021-09-29 15:17 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 11/11] context_tracking,x86: Fix text_poke_sync() vs NOHZ_FULL Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-21 18:39   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-10-21 18:40     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-10-21 19:25     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-21 19:57       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-10-21 20:18         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-26 18:19           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-10-26 19:38             ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 18:03 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] sched,rcu,context_tracking,livepatch: Improve livepatch task transitions for idle and NOHZ_FULL Paul E. McKenney

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