Re: Live patching MC at LPC2020?

From: Michael Matz <matz@suse.de>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Cc: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@redhat.com>,
	Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>, Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>,
	Nicolai Stange <nstange@suse.com>,
	Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>, Gabriel Gomes <gagomes@suse.com>,
	Alice Ferrazzi <alice.ferrazzi@gmail.com>,
	Kamalesh Babulal <kamalesh@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	ulp-devel@opensuse.org, live-patching@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Live patching MC at LPC2020?
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 13:13:38 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.20.2007011304210.9982@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200630214550.cbli6oex4xskwdjp@treble>

Hello,

On Tue, 30 Jun 2020, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 08:59:43AM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
> > On Tue 2020-03-31 16:52:04, Joe Lawrence wrote:
> > It seems that there is interest into sharing/discussing some topics.
> > The question is whether is has to be under the LPC even umbrella.
> > 
> > Advantages of LPC:
> > 
> >    + well defined date
> >    + more attendees (ARM people, Steven Rostedt ;-)
> >    + access to some powerful video conference tool
> >    + access to another LPC content
> >    + support for the conference in the long term
> > 
> > 
> > Advantages of self-organized event:
> > 
> >    + less paperwork?
> >    + cheaper?
> >    + only interested people invited
> >    + date after summer holidays
> >    + more time for the discussion
> > 
> > I am in the favor of self organized event. For me, LPC is much less
> > interesting without the personal contact and hallway conversations.
> > All the LPC date is not ideal for me.
> 
> I'd prefer LPC proper, as it would be easier (infrastructure is already
> taken care of) and more inclusive (in the past we often got good
> feedback from outside the direct livepatch community).  And it's only
> $50 US.

Yeah, I think having more attendees would be valuable.

> But to be honest I have doubts about the usefulness of any online 
> conference, so either way may be equally useless ;-)

Indeed.  OTOH our fellow openSUSE guys seemed to have held a fairly 
successful virtual summit earlier this year with some in-development 
virtual-conferencing software that does more than just video/audio 
streaming ( https://requiredmagic.com/roundtable/ ).  In particular the 
possibility to have interactive Q&A with the presenter during and after 
the allotted talk slot seemed to have made up for hallway discussions.

Maybe that's a viable way.  (I personally wasn't at the virtual summit to 
know for sure, but the experience report from some of them was quite 
positive; I know nothing about the conferencing software of LPC)

Ciao,
Michael.