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* SCO's "proof"
@ 2003-08-19 13:37 Brandon Stewart
  2003-08-19 14:52 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
                   ` (5 more replies)
  0 siblings, 6 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Brandon Stewart @ 2003-08-19 13:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

compliments of "d1rkinator" from yahoo finance message board:

The code SCO finds offending:

www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh0.jpg
www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh1.jpg

Its location in Linux:

/usr/src/linux-2.4.20/arch/ia64/sn/io/ate_utils.c

And its heritage:

minnie.tuhs.org/UnixTree/V7/usr/sys/sys/malloc.c.html

Ok, SCO: This was easy. Now, show us the other many examples.



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* Re: SCO's "proof"
  2003-08-19 13:37 SCO's "proof" Brandon Stewart
@ 2003-08-19 14:52 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
  2003-08-19 15:01   ` Frank Gevaerts
  2003-08-19 15:07 ` Bart Samwel
                   ` (4 subsequent siblings)
  5 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread
From: Dr. David Alan Gilbert @ 2003-08-19 14:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Brandon Stewart; +Cc: linux-kernel

* Brandon Stewart (rbrandonstewart@yahoo.com) wrote:
> compliments of "d1rkinator" from yahoo finance message board:
> 
> The code SCO finds offending:
> 
> www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh0.jpg
> www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh1.jpg

Ah I was wondering if anyone had a copy of that.

> Its location in Linux:
> 
> /usr/src/linux-2.4.20/arch/ia64/sn/io/ate_utils.c
> 
> And its heritage:
> 
> minnie.tuhs.org/UnixTree/V7/usr/sys/sys/malloc.c.html
> 
> Ok, SCO: This was easy. Now, show us the other many examples.

Is it? What the hell was the copyright on that code?

Dave
 -----Open up your eyes, open up your mind, open up your code -------   
/ Dr. David Alan Gilbert    | Running GNU/Linux on Alpha,68K| Happy  \ 
\ gro.gilbert @ treblig.org | MIPS,x86,ARM,SPARC,PPC & HPPA | In Hex /
 \ _________________________|_____ http://www.treblig.org   |_______/

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* Re: SCO's "proof"
  2003-08-19 14:52 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
@ 2003-08-19 15:01   ` Frank Gevaerts
  2003-08-19 15:22     ` Tupshin Harper
  2003-08-19 15:25     ` Colin Paul Adams
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Frank Gevaerts @ 2003-08-19 15:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 03:52:13PM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> * Brandon Stewart (rbrandonstewart@yahoo.com) wrote:
> > compliments of "d1rkinator" from yahoo finance message board:
> > 
> > The code SCO finds offending:
> > 
> > www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh0.jpg
> > www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh1.jpg
> 
> Ah I was wondering if anyone had a copy of that.
> 
> > Its location in Linux:
> > 
> > /usr/src/linux-2.4.20/arch/ia64/sn/io/ate_utils.c
> > 
> > And its heritage:
> > 
> > minnie.tuhs.org/UnixTree/V7/usr/sys/sys/malloc.c.html
> > 
> > Ok, SCO: This was easy. Now, show us the other many examples.
> 
> Is it? What the hell was the copyright on that code?

AFAIK it was released under a BSD license by Caldera...

Frank

> 
> Dave
>  -----Open up your eyes, open up your mind, open up your code -------   
> / Dr. David Alan Gilbert    | Running GNU/Linux on Alpha,68K| Happy  \ 
> \ gro.gilbert @ treblig.org | MIPS,x86,ARM,SPARC,PPC & HPPA | In Hex /
>  \ _________________________|_____ http://www.treblig.org   |_______/
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* Re: SCO's "proof"
  2003-08-19 13:37 SCO's "proof" Brandon Stewart
  2003-08-19 14:52 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
@ 2003-08-19 15:07 ` Bart Samwel
  2003-08-19 15:31   ` Richard B. Johnson
  2003-08-19 15:14 ` Richard B. Johnson
                   ` (3 subsequent siblings)
  5 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread
From: Bart Samwel @ 2003-08-19 15:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Brandon Stewart; +Cc: linux-kernel

For those of you who don't speek greek, the greek text is English and reads:

"As part of the kernel evolution towords modular naming, the functions 
malloc and free are being renamed to rmalloc and rfree.
Compatibility will be maintained by the following assembler code:
(also see free/malloc below)"

What a way of obfuscating their IP. :)

Bart

Brandon Stewart wrote:

> compliments of "d1rkinator" from yahoo finance message board:
> 
> The code SCO finds offending:
> 
> www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh0.jpg
> www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh1.jpg
> 
> Its location in Linux:
> 
> /usr/src/linux-2.4.20/arch/ia64/sn/io/ate_utils.c
> 
> And its heritage:
> 
> minnie.tuhs.org/UnixTree/V7/usr/sys/sys/malloc.c.html
> 
> Ok, SCO: This was easy. Now, show us the other many examples.
> 
> 
> -
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* Re: SCO's "proof"
  2003-08-19 13:37 SCO's "proof" Brandon Stewart
  2003-08-19 14:52 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
  2003-08-19 15:07 ` Bart Samwel
@ 2003-08-19 15:14 ` Richard B. Johnson
  2003-08-19 15:30 ` Jeff Garzik
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  5 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Richard B. Johnson @ 2003-08-19 15:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Brandon Stewart; +Cc: linux-kernel

On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, Brandon Stewart wrote:

> compliments of "d1rkinator" from yahoo finance message board:
>
> The code SCO finds offending:
>
> www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh0.jpg
> www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh1.jpg
>
> Its location in Linux:
>
> /usr/src/linux-2.4.20/arch/ia64/sn/io/ate_utils.c
>
> And its heritage:
>
> minnie.tuhs.org/UnixTree/V7/usr/sys/sys/malloc.c.html
>
> Ok, SCO: This was easy. Now, show us the other many examples.
>

Oh! That's wonderful! They own an Alogrithm called "first-fit".
Really!!! Maybe it's the comments thay they claim ownership
of. Certainly the code, supplied by SCI (their (c)), can't be
the offender.


Cheers,
Dick Johnson
Penguin : Linux version 2.4.20 on an i686 machine (797.90 BogoMips).
            Note 96.31% of all statistics are fiction.



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* Re: SCO's "proof"
  2003-08-19 15:01   ` Frank Gevaerts
@ 2003-08-19 15:22     ` Tupshin Harper
  2003-08-19 15:25     ` Colin Paul Adams
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Tupshin Harper @ 2003-08-19 15:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Frank Gevaerts; +Cc: linux-kernel

Frank Gevaerts wrote:

>On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 03:52:13PM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
>  
>
>>* Brandon Stewart (rbrandonstewart@yahoo.com) wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>compliments of "d1rkinator" from yahoo finance message board:
>>>
>>>The code SCO finds offending:
>>>
>>>www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh0.jpg
>>>www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh1.jpg
>>>      
>>>
>>Ah I was wondering if anyone had a copy of that.
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Its location in Linux:
>>>
>>>/usr/src/linux-2.4.20/arch/ia64/sn/io/ate_utils.c
>>>
>>>And its heritage:
>>>
>>>minnie.tuhs.org/UnixTree/V7/usr/sys/sys/malloc.c.html
>>>
>>>Ok, SCO: This was easy. Now, show us the other many examples.
>>>      
>>>
>>Is it? What the hell was the copyright on that code?
>>    
>>
>
>AFAIK it was released under a BSD license by Caldera...
>
>Frank
>
http://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Caldera-license.pdf

<quote>
January 23, 2002
Dear UNIX? enthusiasts,
Caldera International, Inc. hereby grants a fee free license that 
includes the rights use, modify and distribute this named
source code, including creating derived binary products created from the 
source code. The source code for which Caldera
International, Inc. grants rights are limited to the following UNIX 
Operating Systems that operate on the 16-Bit PDP-11
CPU and early versions of the 32-Bit UNIX Operating System, with 
specific exclusion of UNIX System III and UNIX
System V and successor operating systems:
32-bit 32V UNIX
16 bit UNIX Versions 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
</quote>

-Tupshin


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* Re: SCO's "proof"
  2003-08-19 15:01   ` Frank Gevaerts
  2003-08-19 15:22     ` Tupshin Harper
@ 2003-08-19 15:25     ` Colin Paul Adams
  2003-08-19 20:46       ` Kurt Wall
  2003-08-20 18:27       ` bill davidsen
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Colin Paul Adams @ 2003-08-19 15:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Frank Gevaerts; +Cc: linux-kernel

>>>>> "Frank" == Frank Gevaerts <frank@gevaerts.be> writes:

    >> > minnie.tuhs.org/UnixTree/V7/usr/sys/sys/malloc.c.html
    >> > 
    >> > Ok, SCO: This was easy. Now, show us the other many examples.
    >> 
    >> Is it? What the hell was the copyright on that code?

    Frank> AFAIK it was released under a BSD license by Caldera...

But Caldera are SCO now, aren't they? Are they going to sue themselves!?
-- 
Colin Paul Adams
Preston Lancashire

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* Re: SCO's "proof"
  2003-08-19 13:37 SCO's "proof" Brandon Stewart
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2003-08-19 15:14 ` Richard B. Johnson
@ 2003-08-19 15:30 ` Jeff Garzik
  2003-08-19 16:52   ` David Mosberger
                     ` (2 more replies)
  2003-08-19 19:18 ` Vojtech Pavlik
  2003-08-19 23:34 ` Andrei Barbu "T'Eval"
  5 siblings, 3 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Jeff Garzik @ 2003-08-19 15:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 09:37:13AM -0400, Brandon Stewart wrote:
> compliments of "d1rkinator" from yahoo finance message board:
> 
> The code SCO finds offending:
> 
> www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh0.jpg
> www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh1.jpg

Why the heck is ia64 inventing its own mutex spinlocks?

Sigh.

Here's the original Heise article, for those who read German:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/

	Jeff




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* Re: SCO's "proof"
  2003-08-19 15:07 ` Bart Samwel
@ 2003-08-19 15:31   ` Richard B. Johnson
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Richard B. Johnson @ 2003-08-19 15:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bart Samwel; +Cc: Brandon Stewart, linux-kernel

On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, Bart Samwel wrote:

> For those of you who don't speek greek, the greek text is English and reads:
>
> "As part of the kernel evolution towords modular naming, the functions
> malloc and free are being renamed to rmalloc and rfree.
> Compatibility will be maintained by the following assembler code:
> (also see free/malloc below)"
>
> What a way of obfuscating their IP. :)
>
> Bart
>
> Brandon Stewart wrote:
>
> > compliments of "d1rkinator" from yahoo finance message board:
> >
> > The code SCO finds offending:
> >
> > www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh0.jpg
> > www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh1.jpg
> >
> > Its location in Linux:
> >
> > /usr/src/linux-2.4.20/arch/ia64/sn/io/ate_utils.c
> >
> > And its heritage:
> >
> > minnie.tuhs.org/UnixTree/V7/usr/sys/sys/malloc.c.html
> >
> > Ok, SCO: This was easy. Now, show us the other many examples.
> >
> >
> > -

confuse.S follows.
----------------
#
#  Enormously complicated assembly-language program released
#  under GPL, herein referenced ;)
#
#  This program will actually work. Am I violating somebody's
#  patent? Sue me.
#
.section	.text
rmalloc:	jmp	malloc
rfree:		jmp	free
print:		jmp	printf	# Fix typical typos
.global	rmalloc
.type	rmalloc,@function
.global	rfree
.type	rfree,@function
.global	print
.type	print,@function
.end
---------------


Cheers,
Dick Johnson
Penguin : Linux version 2.4.20 on an i686 machine (797.90 BogoMips).
            Note 96.31% of all statistics are fiction.



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* Re: SCO's "proof"
  2003-08-19 15:30 ` Jeff Garzik
@ 2003-08-19 16:52   ` David Mosberger
  2003-08-19 17:22   ` Matti Aarnio
  2003-08-19 18:00   ` J.A. Magallon
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: David Mosberger @ 2003-08-19 16:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jeff Garzik; +Cc: linux-kernel

>>>>> On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 11:30:56 -0400, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com> said:

  Jeff> On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 09:37:13AM -0400, Brandon Stewart
  Jeff> wrote:
  >> compliments of "d1rkinator" from yahoo finance message board:

  >> The code SCO finds offending:

  >> www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh0.jpg
  >> www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh1.jpg

  Jeff> Why the heck is ia64 inventing its own mutex spinlocks?

  Jeff> Sigh.

  Jeff> Here's the original Heise article, for those who read German:
  Jeff> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/

It's not ia64, it's the SGI platform-specific code...

	--david

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* Re: SCO's "proof"
  2003-08-19 15:30 ` Jeff Garzik
  2003-08-19 16:52   ` David Mosberger
@ 2003-08-19 17:22   ` Matti Aarnio
  2003-08-19 18:00   ` J.A. Magallon
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Matti Aarnio @ 2003-08-19 17:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel; +Cc: Jeff Garzik

On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 11:30:56AM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
...
> Here's the original Heise article, for those who read German:
> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/

And a tiny-url redirected google-translated english version:
  http://tinyurl.com/ki2a

(amazingly readable version that translation..)

> 	Jeff

/Matti Aarnio

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* Re: SCO's "proof"
  2003-08-19 15:30 ` Jeff Garzik
  2003-08-19 16:52   ` David Mosberger
  2003-08-19 17:22   ` Matti Aarnio
@ 2003-08-19 18:00   ` J.A. Magallon
  2003-08-19 20:02     ` Richard B. Johnson
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread
From: J.A. Magallon @ 2003-08-19 18:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jeff Garzik; +Cc: linux-kernel


On 08.19, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 09:37:13AM -0400, Brandon Stewart wrote:
> > compliments of "d1rkinator" from yahoo finance message board:
> > 
> > The code SCO finds offending:
> > 
> > www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh0.jpg
> > www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh1.jpg
> 
> Why the heck is ia64 inventing its own mutex spinlocks?
> 

They can't even copy code to a slide:

	if (size==0)
		return)((ulong_t NULL);

That does not compile...

-- 
J.A. Magallon <jamagallon@able.es>      \                 Software is like sex:
werewolf.able.es                         \           It's better when it's free
Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (Cooker) for i586
Linux 2.4.22-rc2-jam1m (gcc 3.3.1 (Mandrake Linux 9.2 3.3.1-1mdk))

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* Re: SCO's "proof"
  2003-08-19 13:37 SCO's "proof" Brandon Stewart
                   ` (3 preceding siblings ...)
  2003-08-19 15:30 ` Jeff Garzik
@ 2003-08-19 19:18 ` Vojtech Pavlik
  2003-08-19 23:34 ` Andrei Barbu "T'Eval"
  5 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Vojtech Pavlik @ 2003-08-19 19:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Brandon Stewart; +Cc: linux-kernel

On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 09:37:13AM -0400, Brandon Stewart wrote:
> compliments of "d1rkinator" from yahoo finance message board:
> 
> The code SCO finds offending:
> 
> www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh0.jpg
> www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh1.jpg
> 
> Its location in Linux:
> 
> /usr/src/linux-2.4.20/arch/ia64/sn/io/ate_utils.c
> 
> And its heritage:
> 
> minnie.tuhs.org/UnixTree/V7/usr/sys/sys/malloc.c.html
> 
> Ok, SCO: This was easy. Now, show us the other many examples.

Nothing new. See this LKML post by Neil Moore and the following thread,
named "Unix code in Linux" from Jun 19:

http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0306.2/1064.html

That code isn't present in 2.5 anymore.

-- 
Vojtech Pavlik
SuSE Labs, SuSE CR

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* Re: SCO's "proof"
  2003-08-19 18:00   ` J.A. Magallon
@ 2003-08-19 20:02     ` Richard B. Johnson
  2003-08-22  2:31       ` Sulaiman Alhasawi
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread
From: Richard B. Johnson @ 2003-08-19 20:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: J.A. Magallon; +Cc: Jeff Garzik, linux-kernel

On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, J.A. Magallon wrote:

>
> On 08.19, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 09:37:13AM -0400, Brandon Stewart wrote:
> > > compliments of "d1rkinator" from yahoo finance message board:
> > >
> > > The code SCO finds offending:
> > >
> > > www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh0.jpg
> > > www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh1.jpg
> >
> > Why the heck is ia64 inventing its own mutex spinlocks?
> >
>
> They can't even copy code to a slide:
>
> 	if (size==0)
> 		return)((ulong_t NULL);
>
> That does not compile...
>
> --
> J.A. Magallon <jamagallon@able.es>      \                 Software is like sex:
> werewolf.able.es                         \           It's better when it's free
> Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (Cooker) for i586
> Linux 2.4.22-rc2-jam1m (gcc 3.3.1 (Mandrake Linux 9.2 3.3.1-1mdk))

Well it certainly looks as though they copied Linux. At least
they copied the comments okay. It also looks as though the
`evidence` was additionally tampered with because, what is
alleged to be appropriated code will not even compile because
of the tampering.

In the United States Courts, one cannot simply hand-copy some
so-called evidence. This so-called evidence will never make
it to court. If this is being used as evidence, this is prima-
facie evidence of fraud.

Don't do the editing for them. Just let them make their phony
evidence. If this continues, somebody will lose their license
to practice law, and sombody may even end up in jail.


Cheers,
Dick Johnson
Penguin : Linux version 2.4.20 on an i686 machine (797.90 BogoMips).
            Note 96.31% of all statistics are fiction.



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* Re: SCO's "proof"
  2003-08-19 15:25     ` Colin Paul Adams
@ 2003-08-19 20:46       ` Kurt Wall
  2003-08-20 18:27       ` bill davidsen
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Kurt Wall @ 2003-08-19 20:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

Quoth Colin Paul Adams:
> >>>>> "Frank" == Frank Gevaerts <frank@gevaerts.be> writes:
> 
>     >> > minnie.tuhs.org/UnixTree/V7/usr/sys/sys/malloc.c.html
>     >> > 
>     >> > Ok, SCO: This was easy. Now, show us the other many examples.
>     >> 
>     >> Is it? What the hell was the copyright on that code?
> 
>     Frank> AFAIK it was released under a BSD license by Caldera...
> 
> But Caldera are SCO now, aren't they? Are they going to sue themselves!?

We can only hope.

Kurt
-- 
Fourth Law of Revision:
	It is usually impractical to worry beforehand about
interferences -- if you have none, someone will make one for you.

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* Re: SCO's "proof"
  2003-08-19 13:37 SCO's "proof" Brandon Stewart
                   ` (4 preceding siblings ...)
  2003-08-19 19:18 ` Vojtech Pavlik
@ 2003-08-19 23:34 ` Andrei Barbu "T'Eval"
  5 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Andrei Barbu "T'Eval" @ 2003-08-19 23:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

The first image seems usless
Comments are not acceptable in this type of case, that was ruled in
court before over AT&T vs Berkely.
So.. it's completely irrelevant in the real world. As for the 2nd they'd
still have to go a long way twoards proving they didn't steal it.



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* Re: SCO's "proof"
  2003-08-19 15:25     ` Colin Paul Adams
  2003-08-19 20:46       ` Kurt Wall
@ 2003-08-20 18:27       ` bill davidsen
  2003-08-20 18:46         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread
From: bill davidsen @ 2003-08-20 18:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

In article <lt4r0du0t3.fsf@colina.demon.co.uk>,
Colin Paul Adams  <colin@colina.demon.co.uk> wrote:
| >>>>> "Frank" == Frank Gevaerts <frank@gevaerts.be> writes:
| 
|     >> > minnie.tuhs.org/UnixTree/V7/usr/sys/sys/malloc.c.html
|     >> > 
|     >> > Ok, SCO: This was easy. Now, show us the other many examples.
|     >> 
|     >> Is it? What the hell was the copyright on that code?
| 
|     Frank> AFAIK it was released under a BSD license by Caldera...
| 
| But Caldera are SCO now, aren't they? Are they going to sue themselves!?

Thay should! Oh wait, you said sue, not shoot... nevermind.
-- 
bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
  CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979.

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* Re: SCO's "proof"
  2003-08-20 18:27       ` bill davidsen
@ 2003-08-20 18:46         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
  2003-08-21  3:09           ` Stuart Longland
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread
From: Valdis.Kletnieks @ 2003-08-20 18:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bill davidsen; +Cc: linux-kernel

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On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 18:27:31 -0000, davidsen@tmr.com (bill davidsen)  said:
> Colin Paul Adams  <colin@colina.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> | But Caldera are SCO now, aren't they? Are they going to sue themselves!?
> 
> Thay should! Oh wait, you said sue, not shoot... nevermind.

Only in the foot.. only in the foot.. unfortunately.

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* Re: SCO's "proof"
  2003-08-20 18:46         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
@ 2003-08-21  3:09           ` Stuart Longland
  2003-08-21 10:22             ` Stephan von Krawczynski
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread
From: Stuart Longland @ 2003-08-21  3:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Valdis.Kletnieks; +Cc: bill davidsen, linux-kernel

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Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:

| On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 18:27:31 -0000, davidsen@tmr.com (bill davidsen)
said:
|
|>Colin Paul Adams  <colin@colina.demon.co.uk> wrote:
|>| But Caldera are SCO now, aren't they? Are they going to sue themselves!?
|>
|>Thay should! Oh wait, you said sue, not shoot... nevermind.
|
|
| Only in the foot.. only in the foot.. unfortunately.

This case is getting more rediculous with each day...lfmao

Oh dear, it seems that our /comments/ are alike.  Hrmm.  Pity the
compiller doesn't take any notice of them, and therefore, I don't see
the evidence that the /code/ has been stolen.  Also, as others have
quite rightfully pointed out, it doesn't even compile -- syntax errors
galore.

Lets hope some people in the legal profession have some C knowledge --
or at least have the sense to go directly to the kernel source on
kernel.org rather than relying on what SCO provides.

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* Re: SCO's "proof"
  2003-08-21  3:09           ` Stuart Longland
@ 2003-08-21 10:22             ` Stephan von Krawczynski
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Stephan von Krawczynski @ 2003-08-21 10:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stuart Longland; +Cc: Valdis.Kletnieks, davidsen, linux-kernel

On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 13:09:27 +1000
Stuart Longland <stuartl@longlandclan.hopto.org> wrote:

> This case is getting more rediculous with each day...lfmao
> 
> Oh dear, it seems that our /comments/ are alike.  Hrmm.  Pity the
> compiller doesn't take any notice of them, and therefore, I don't see
> the evidence that the /code/ has been stolen.  Also, as others have
> quite rightfully pointed out, it doesn't even compile -- syntax errors
> galore.
> 
> Lets hope some people in the legal profession have some C knowledge --
> or at least have the sense to go directly to the kernel source on
> kernel.org rather than relying on what SCO provides.

As the only case that SCO has filed up to now is against IBM (as far as I know)
you should be aware of the possibility that this proof presented is only a
piece of FUD to distract from the real issues. IBM has never touched this
source, so it is irrelevant to the case.

Regards,
Stephan

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* Re: SCO's "proof"
  2003-08-19 20:02     ` Richard B. Johnson
@ 2003-08-22  2:31       ` Sulaiman Alhasawi
  2003-08-22  7:25         ` Paul Rolland
  2003-08-22  8:33         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Sulaiman Alhasawi @ 2003-08-22  2:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

>
>
>>>>www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh0.jpg
>>>>
   
  What is the  language on  "System V" code  ?   ;-)



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* Re: SCO's "proof"
  2003-08-22  2:31       ` Sulaiman Alhasawi
@ 2003-08-22  7:25         ` Paul Rolland
  2003-08-22  8:33         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Paul Rolland @ 2003-08-22  7:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'Sulaiman Alhasawi', linux-kernel

> >>>>www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh0.jpg
> >>>>
>    
>   What is the  language on  "System V" code  ?   ;-)
> 
lawyer-ish :-)

Paul


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* Re: SCO's "proof"
  2003-08-22  2:31       ` Sulaiman Alhasawi
  2003-08-22  7:25         ` Paul Rolland
@ 2003-08-22  8:33         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
  2003-08-22 10:35           ` Måns Rullgård
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread
From: Geert Uytterhoeven @ 2003-08-22  8:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sulaiman Alhasawi; +Cc: Linux Kernel Development

On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Sulaiman Alhasawi wrote:
> >>>>www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh0.jpg
> >>>>
>    
>   What is the  language on  "System V" code  ?   ;-)

English using a Greek font.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

					Geert (\Gamma\epsilon\epsilon\rho\tau)

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
							    -- Linus Torvalds


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* Re: SCO's "proof"
  2003-08-22  8:33         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
@ 2003-08-22 10:35           ` Måns Rullgård
  2003-08-23 13:16             ` Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread
From: Måns Rullgård @ 2003-08-22 10:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> writes:

>>   What is the  language on  "System V" code  ?   ;-)
>
> English using a Greek font.

AFAIK, C source code doesn't contain any font information, not even in
comments.

-- 
Måns Rullgård
mru@users.sf.net


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* Re: SCO's "proof"
  2003-08-22 10:35           ` Måns Rullgård
@ 2003-08-23 13:16             ` Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra @ 2003-08-23 13:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 12:35:05 +0200, Måns Rullgård wrote:

> AFAIK, C source code doesn't contain any font information, not even in
> comments.

	Good morning, the font was applied in the PowerPoint slides...


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* Re: SCO's "proof"
  2003-08-22  9:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
@ 2003-08-22 13:58   ` Kurt Wall
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Kurt Wall @ 2003-08-22 13:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christoph Hellwig, P. Christeas, Geert Uytterhoeven, lkml

Quoth Christoph Hellwig:
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 12:36:45PM +0300, P. Christeas wrote:
> > It seems that the misplaced font is the result of much tampering ;) . 
> > Moreover, this could mostly happen in a M$ machine. Some comment on SCO about 
> > this ?
> 
> Well, a few years ago at old Caldera and SCO every non-techie used Windows.
> At old SCO even lots of techies used Windows for email..

Yup. I remember those days. I was appalled.

Kurt
-- 
The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to
choose from.
		-- Andrew S. Tanenbaum

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* Re: SCO's "proof"
  2003-08-22  9:36 P. Christeas
  2003-08-22  9:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
@ 2003-08-22 12:37 ` Con Kolivas
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Con Kolivas @ 2003-08-22 12:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: P. Christeas, Geert Uytterhoeven; +Cc: lkml

On Friday 22 August 2003 19:36, P. Christeas wrote:
> >On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Sulaiman Alhasawi wrote:
> >> >>>>www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh0.jpg
> >>
> >>   What is the  language on  "System V" code  ?   ;-)
> >
> >English using a Greek font.
> >
> >Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
> >					Geert (\Gamma\epsilon\epsilon\rho\tau)
>
> The font is not any Greek font. It is the M$ 'Symbol' one. Other fonts
> would not have this effect at all.
>
> It seems that the misplaced font is the result of much tampering ;) .
> Moreover, this could mostly happen in a M$ machine. Some comment on SCO
> about this ?

Since greek characters are easy for me to read here is said conversion since 
people are curious:

As part of the kernel evolution towards modular naming, the
functions malloc and mfree are being renamed to pmalloc and pmfree
Compatibility will be maintained by the following assembler code:
(also see mfree/pmfree below)


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* Re: SCO's "proof"
  2003-08-22  9:36 P. Christeas
@ 2003-08-22  9:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
  2003-08-22 13:58   ` Kurt Wall
  2003-08-22 12:37 ` Con Kolivas
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread
From: Christoph Hellwig @ 2003-08-22  9:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: P. Christeas; +Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven, lkml

On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 12:36:45PM +0300, P. Christeas wrote:
> It seems that the misplaced font is the result of much tampering ;) . 
> Moreover, this could mostly happen in a M$ machine. Some comment on SCO about 
> this ?

Well, a few years ago at old Caldera and SCO every non-techie used Windows.
At old SCO even lots of techies used Windows for email..


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* Re: SCO's "proof"
@ 2003-08-22  9:36 P. Christeas
  2003-08-22  9:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
  2003-08-22 12:37 ` Con Kolivas
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: P. Christeas @ 2003-08-22  9:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Geert Uytterhoeven; +Cc: lkml

>On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Sulaiman Alhasawi wrote:
>> >>>>www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh0.jpg
>> >>>>
>>    
>>   What is the  language on  "System V" code  ?   ;-)

>English using a Greek font.

>Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
>					Geert (\Gamma\epsilon\epsilon\rho\tau)

The font is not any Greek font. It is the M$ 'Symbol' one. Other fonts would 
not have this effect at all.

It seems that the misplaced font is the result of much tampering ;) . 
Moreover, this could mostly happen in a M$ machine. Some comment on SCO about 
this ?



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