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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
To: Xavier Bestel <xavier.bestel@free.fr>
Cc: Dan Maas <dmaas@dcine.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Tom spaziani <digiphaze@deming-os.org>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
Subject: Re: VM Requirement Document - v0.0
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 17:04:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0107051704000H.03760@starship> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fa.jprli0v.qlofoc@ifi.uio.no> <0107051502510F.03760@starship> <994341617.2070.1.camel@nomade>
In-Reply-To: <994341617.2070.1.camel@nomade>

On Thursday 05 July 2001 16:00, Xavier Bestel wrote:
> On 05 Jul 2001 15:02:51 +0200, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> > Here's an idea I just came up with while I was composing this... along
> > the lines of using unused bandwidth for something that at least has a
> > chance of being useful.  Suppose we come to the end of a period of
> > activity, the general 'temperature' starts to drop and disks fall idle. 
> > At this point we could consult a history of which currently running
> > processes have been historically active and grow their working sets by
> > reading in from disk. Otherwise, the memory and the disk bandwidth is
> > just wasted, right?  This we can do inside the kernel and not require
> > coders to mess up their apps with hints.  Of course, they should still
> > take the time to reengineer them to reduce the cache footprint.
>
> Well, on a laptop memory and disk bandwith are rarely wasted - they cost
> battery life.

Let me comment on this again, having spent a couple of minutes more 
thinking about it.  Would you be happy paying 1% of your battery life to get 
80% less sluggish response after a memory pig exits?

Also, notice that the scenario we were originally discussing, the off-hours 
updatedb, doesn't normally happen on laptops because they tend to be 
suspended at that time.

--
Daniel

       reply	other threads:[~2001-07-05 15:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-07-05 15:04 Daniel Phillips [this message]
     [not found] ` <fa.jprli0v.qlofoc@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]   ` <fa.e66agbv.hn0u1v@ifi.uio.no>
2001-07-05  1:49     ` VM Requirement Document - v0.0 Dan Maas
2001-07-05 13:02       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-05 14:00       ` Xavier Bestel
2001-07-05 14:51         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-05 15:00         ` Xavier Bestel
2001-07-05 15:12           ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-05 15:12         ` Alan Shutko
     [not found]     ` <002501c104f4/mnt/sendme701a8c0@morph>
2001-07-09 12:17       ` Pavel Machek
2001-07-12 23:46         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-13 21:07           ` Pavel Machek
2001-07-06 19:09 ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-06 21:57   ` Daniel Phillips
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-05 15:09 mike_phillips
2001-07-04 16:08 mike_phillips
2001-06-28 12:20 mike_phillips
2001-06-28 12:30 ` Alan Cox
2001-06-28 13:33   ` Tobias Ringstrom
2001-06-28 13:37     ` Alan Cox
2001-06-28 14:04       ` Tobias Ringstrom
2001-06-28 14:14         ` Alan Cox
2001-06-28 14:52       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-28 14:39 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-28 18:01   ` Marco Colombo
2001-07-02 18:42     ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-03 10:33       ` Marco Colombo
2001-07-03 15:04         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-03 18:24           ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-04  8:12           ` Ari Heitner
2001-07-04  9:41           ` Marco Colombo
2001-07-04 15:03             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-03 18:29       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-04  8:32         ` Marco Colombo
2001-07-04 14:44           ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-28 15:21 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-06-28 16:02   ` Daniel Phillips
     [not found] <fa.oqkojpv.3hosb7@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.jpsks3v.1o2gag4@ifi.uio.no>
2001-06-27  0:43   ` Dan Maas
2001-06-27  0:45     ` Mike Castle
2001-06-27 10:50   ` Xavier Bestel
2001-06-27  8:53 Martin Knoblauch
2001-06-27 18:13 ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-28  6:59   ` Martin Knoblauch
2001-06-28 11:27 ` Helge Hafting
2001-06-28 11:54   ` Martin Knoblauch
2001-06-28 12:02   ` Tobias Ringstrom
2001-06-28 12:31     ` Xavier Bestel
2001-06-28 13:05       ` Tobias Ringstrom
2001-06-26 19:58 Jason McMullan
2001-06-26 21:21 ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-26 21:29   ` Jason McMullan
2001-06-26 21:33 ` John Stoffel
2001-06-26 21:42   ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-26 22:21     ` Stefan Hoffmeister
2001-06-26 22:48       ` Jeffrey W. Baker
2001-06-27  0:18         ` Mike Castle
2001-06-28 13:07       ` John Fremlin
2001-06-27 13:36     ` Marco Colombo
2001-06-27  3:55   ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-27 14:09   ` Pozsar Balazs
2001-06-28 22:47 ` John Fremlin
2001-06-30 15:37 ` Pavel Machek
2001-07-10 10:34 ` David Woodhouse

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