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From: "Dongseok Yi" <dseok.yi@samsung.com>
To: "'Willem de Bruijn'" <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: "'Yunsheng Lin'" <linyunsheng@huawei.com>,
	"'Daniel Borkmann'" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"'bpf'" <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	"'Alexei Starovoitov'" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"'Andrii Nakryiko'" <andrii@kernel.org>,
	"'Martin KaFai Lau'" <kafai@fb.com>,
	"'Song Liu'" <songliubraving@fb.com>,
	"'Yonghong Song'" <yhs@fb.com>,
	"'John Fastabend'" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	"'KP Singh'" <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
	"'David S. Miller'" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"'Jakub Kicinski'" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"'Network Development'" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"'linux-kernel'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH bpf] bpf: check for data_len before upgrading mss when 6 to 4
Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 09:45:03 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <01b701d746c8$0c15ae70$24410b50$@samsung.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAF=yD-+ncxKY28h8ch8kcJmSXfqdnBrBELKFBPmfP7RzNsWoTg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 01:38:41PM -0400, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 9:11 PM Dongseok Yi <dseok.yi@samsung.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 09:46:25AM -0400, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > > On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 9:19 AM Willem de Bruijn
> > > <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > That generates TCP packets with different MSS within the same stream.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My suggestion remains to just not change MSS at all. But this has to
> > > > > > be a new flag to avoid changing established behavior.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't understand why the mss size should be kept in GSO step. Will
> > > > > there be any issue with different mss?
> > > >
> > > > This issue has come up before and that has been the feedback from
> > > > TCP experts at one point.
> > > >
> > > > > In general, upgrading mss make sense when 6 to 4. The new flag would be
> > > > > set by user to not change mss. What happened if user does not set the
> > > > > flag? I still think we should fix the issue with a general approach. Or
> > > > > can we remove the skb_increase_gso_size line?
> > > >
> > > > Admins that insert such BPF packets should be aware of these issues.
> > > > And likely be using clamping. This is a known issue.
> > > >
> > > > We arrived that the flag approach in bpf_skb_net_shrink. Extending
> > > > that  to bpf_skb_change_proto would be consistent.
> > >
> > > As for more generic approach: does downgrading to non-TSO by clearing
> > > gso_size work for this edge case?
> >
> > It can hit __skb_linearize in validate_xmit_skb and frags will be
> > copied to a linear part. The linear part size can exceed the MTU of
> > skb->dev unexpectedly.
> 
> When does skb_needs_linearize return true here (besides lack of
> scatter-gather support, which would also preclude TSO)?

As I know not every netdev support NETIF_F_SG. TSO requires SG.

    /* TSO requires that SG is present as well. */
    if ((features & NETIF_F_ALL_TSO) && !(features & NETIF_F_SG)) {
        netdev_dbg(dev, "Dropping TSO features since no SG feature.\n");
        features &= ~NETIF_F_ALL_TSO;
    }

> 
> > I will make another patch with the flag approach.
> >


  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-12  0:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20210429102143epcas2p4c8747c09a9de28f003c20389c050394a@epcas2p4.samsung.com>
2021-04-29 10:08 ` [PATCH bpf] bpf: check for data_len before upgrading mss when 6 to 4 Dongseok Yi
2021-05-05 20:55   ` Daniel Borkmann
2021-05-06  0:45     ` Dongseok Yi
2021-05-06  1:45       ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-05-06  2:27         ` Dongseok Yi
2021-05-06 18:21           ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-05-07  0:53             ` Dongseok Yi
2021-05-07  1:25               ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-05-07  1:45                 ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-05-07  1:53                   ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-05-07  8:25                     ` Dongseok Yi
2021-05-07  9:11                       ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-05-07 10:36                         ` Dongseok Yi
2021-05-07 13:50                       ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-05-10  2:22                         ` Dongseok Yi
2021-05-10 13:19                           ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-05-10 13:46                             ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-05-11  1:11                               ` Dongseok Yi
2021-05-11 17:38                                 ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-05-12  0:45                                   ` Dongseok Yi [this message]
     [not found]   ` <CGME20210511065056epcas2p1788505019deb274f5c57650a2f5d7ef0@epcas2p1.samsung.com>
2021-05-11  6:36     ` [PATCH bpf v2] bpf: check BPF_F_ADJ_ROOM_FIXED_GSO when upgrading mss in " Dongseok Yi
2021-05-11 17:42       ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-05-12  6:56         ` Dongseok Yi
     [not found]       ` <CGME20210512074058epcas2p35536c27bdfafaa6431e164c142007f96@epcas2p3.samsung.com>
2021-05-12  7:27         ` [PATCH bpf-next v3] bpf: check for BPF_F_ADJ_ROOM_FIXED_GSO when bpf_skb_change_proto Dongseok Yi
2021-05-12 14:13           ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-05-18 20:10           ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf

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