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From: Jesse Pollard <jesse@cats-chateau.net>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>, David griego <dagriego@hotmail.com>
Cc: alan@storlinksemi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Alan Shih: "TCP IP Offloading Interface"
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 07:42:01 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <03071507420100.27793@tabby> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3F1303FA.8080706@pobox.com>

On Monday 14 July 2003 14:26, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> David griego wrote:
> > How does one measure the reliability and security of current software
> > TCP/IP stacks?  Some standard set of test would have to be identified
> > and the TOEs would need to be tested against this to ensure that they
> > meet some minimum standard.  I would suggest offloading the minimum
> > amount from the OS so that most of the control could be maintaind by the
> > OS stack.  This also would make failover/routing changes between TOE
> > -TOE, and TOE-NIC easier.
>
> Anything beyond basic host-only TOE adds massive complexity for very
> little gain:  interfacing netfilter and routing code with a black box we
> _hope_ will act properly sounds like suicide.
>
>  >  Current offloads such as checksum and
> >
> > segmentation will not be enough for 10GbE processing, so it would have
> > to be something more than we have today.
>
> All this is vague handwaving without supporting evidence.  So far we get
> stuff like Internet2 speed records _without_ TOE.  And Linux currently
> supports 10gige...  and hosts are just going to keep getting faster and
> faster.
>
> 	Jeff

Not to mention the problems IPSec would have with such a device.

  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-15 12:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-14 19:14 David griego
2003-07-14 19:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-07-15 12:42   ` Jesse Pollard [this message]
2003-07-14 19:46 ` Alan Cox
     [not found] <Sea2-F66GGORm1u51rM00012573@hotmail.com>
2003-07-15 11:18 ` Alan Cox
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-07-14 21:51 David griego
2003-07-14 20:29 David griego
2003-07-14 20:23 David griego
2003-07-14 20:19 David griego
2003-07-14 20:31 ` Alan Shih
2003-07-14 20:34 ` Alan Cox
2003-07-14 21:53   ` Deepak Saxena
2003-07-17 22:31     ` Bill Davidsen
2003-07-14 19:43 David griego
2003-07-14 20:03 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-07-14 20:23   ` Alan Cox
2003-07-14 20:05 ` Alan Cox
2003-07-14 20:30   ` Shawn
2003-07-15  5:58   ` Werner Almesberger
2003-07-14 18:46 David griego
2003-07-14 19:02 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-07-14 21:22   ` Deepak Saxena
2003-07-14 21:45     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-07-15  5:27     ` Werner Almesberger
2003-07-14 19:42 ` Alan Cox

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